Hello,
Likewise, I have not been involved in any discussions about either OO
or NO.
Once I found out about NO, however, I downloaded and installed it to
find out whether the fonts menu would find my active fonts, which are
maintained by a third-party application -- Suitcase Fusion. Indeed,
NO listed every font correctly, something OO could not do -- it
listed ONLY the active fonts in the various system font folders.
This is an important issue for me, since I run a small part-time
design service, and need access to any of several thousand typefaces
that are maintained in Suitcase. Since OO needs to run a conversion
-- which, if I read the instructions correctly, deals only with TT
fonts -- on fonts located any/some where on your computer, this is
simply not going to work for me. (None of my fonts are located on the
computer, since I opted to install them all directly into Suitcase's
Vault).
I'm not saying NO is the perfect solution, only that it seems to be
many steps ahead of OO in how it handles fonts on the Mac. The basic
font-handling approach of OO seems to mimic that of old MS DOS
applications in that each application "loaded" fonts into its own
handler, a real step backwards to anyone who deals with lots of
fonts, with fonts that must be activated and deactivated, etc.
I will look forward to seeing what the next version of OO does
regarding X11, a clunky and non Mac-like way to run programs. Perhaps
better font handling will be part of the package.
George
On Mar 22, 2007, at 08:36 AM, Chad Smith wrote:
On 3/22/07, Guy Voets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello
We just had a discussion on the users list here about the NeoOffice
fork...
after which it sounds a bit false to simply sing the praises of the
latter.
I was not involved in your discussion. If I were, I would be on
the pro-Neo
side, as I have been for years.
For years, the "very enthusiastic" (sic) Mac port team has done a
lot of
talking with zero results.
Whenever a true Mac-Native Aqua port of OpenOffice.org (tm) without
X11
becomes available, I'll use it, and I will tell the world to use
it. Until
that day, I will use and promote NeoOffice. If someone goes
through the
hell to install X11, digging out the Tiger install discs that most
users
have never opened, much less used, or finding the download on some
obsecure
page for 10.3 users, (which, searching for a download is the first
thing
most people do when having to install something weird - not digging
out the
CDs/DVDs that came with your computer)....
Why should users have to do nay of that? NeoOffice has been offering
Mac-Nativity for at least 4 years that I am personally aware of -
probably
longer than that. Why can 2 guys in their spare time do 4 years
ago what
the entire of OpenOffice.org and Sun Microsystems hasn't been able
to do in
as many years with full time employees?
Look at the download page. Has anyone from Sun or OOo looked at it
on a Mac
looked at it?
I did. Here's what I saw.
http://chad78.justfree.com/Port2Mac/OOo4Mac.html
Just a tip - when making a page for Mac users - don't test view it on
Windows IE.
Whatever may be the history of relations between developers of OOo
and NO, I
can't say that I'm all that pleased with the so-called advantages
of NO
over
OOo. The 'native' character is little more than a distance of a
few cm
between the location of the top level menu. The all-over look and
feel is
not really what I as a Mac-user would call Aqua, and in the fast
development
of OOo, NO is lagging behind several versions.
I'm looking forward to the native OOo version for Mac that will
probably
toll the bell for this rather unfortunate spin-off product.
I'd advise avery Mac user to go through the motions of installing X11
(that
are really peanuts, you only need to take a look at the install
how-to)
and
maybe try to contribute to a swift transition to the Aqua OOo by
reporting
bugs, problems and possible solutions to the very small but
enthusiastic
Mac
porting team.
Enjoy!
--
Guy
using dutch OOo 2.2 RC 3 on a iMac Intel DualCore Tiger
and dutch OOo 2.2 RC 3 on a G4 PPC Powerbook Tiger
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Dodoes can't afford to have headaches
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- Chad Smith
http://www.chadwsmith.com/
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