Hi Lars,
Lars Noodén schrieb:
One part I see that is very vulnerable to abuse, intentionally or
accidentally, is the "rush vote". Too much crap gets pushed through in
"emergency" sessions in city councils and in student organizations. The
contingency vote also gets tried, but most of the time it is simply a
way of circumventing quorum.
Hmm .. speaking of something like "rush" and "the Community Council"
sounds like cynicism. The problem of the council was rather that
decisions have been delayed over and over.
I agree, there is a risk to misuse these rush votes, but this has
notbeen introduced with the new charter proposal (but please see below).
Speaking of which, what is quorum and how are decisions made?
If I understand correctly, "consent" in § 5.2, and clarified in § 6.4 is
meant to be "consensus", in which case that's fine with me, with the
following clarification: abstentions and non-votes counted as "no".
Again recent years have show us the problems of allowing abstentions to
count as approval.
No in recent years we had the clear rule, that all council decisions
need to be by consensus - no opposing or absent votes allowed. This lead
to the situation, that council votes had to be delayed for months -
maybe because one member was not able to attend the voting sessions, not
willing to cast a vote or just not interested in the topic. Therefore
many small things from the agenda got delayed and even high level items
got never the council's approval (e.g. to allow the Brazil Community to
use a different brand).
We agread to allow one exception from this rule (what is also written in
the charter): if a council member fails to take part
but ... stop .. what am I talking about? .. Lars - you changed the
current approval in the wiki - what means we are discussion about
something that has not passed Council approval and neither passe Project
Leads approval.
I will revert the changes - and write mor on the topic later.
André
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