André Schnabel wrote:

> I will revert the changes - and write mor on the topic later.

OK, my mistake apparently.   Though I may ask wtf it is doing in a wiki
then, without even ACLs, and why post the URL, if it is not there to be
changed?

> No in recent years we had the clear rule, that all council decisions 
> need to be by consensus - no opposing or absent votes allowed. This 
> lead to the situation, that council votes had to be delayed for
> months - maybe because one member was not able to attend the voting
> sessions, not willing to cast a vote or just not interested in the
> topic.

Described that way, the problem is not in the voting, but instead in who
is allowed to vote.  That appears to be a similar problem as is found in
a number of ISO committees nowadays since MSFT paid a lot of sockpuppets
to register to participate for a single issue and all subsequent topics
have slammed to a halt due to lack of participation.

How about requiring that participants register a proxy if they will be
absent and that a number of absences within a specific time (short or
long) mean end of term.

Look, rushing this, too, will make a mess.  The rules of voting will
more or less determine what behavior is brought forth.  Please look at
these rules of order as a form writing scripts or programming.  The
intent matters very little.  If there is a fatal flaw in the script,
malfeasants *will* find and exploit it.

Allowing abstentions to equal "yes" allows for crap to be flown in under
the radar or during holidays.  So does a "rush" vote.  In practice these
get used to avoid scrutiny and evaluation for harmful or at best
unpopular decisions.

-Lars

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