Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a
Proposal?  Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the
space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it
collects), it needs to be approved by the membership.

I think that the current page should be moved off of the SYNHAK:Privacy
Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until it becomes official.
 Generally, I like to keep the SYNHAK:Whatever namespace on the wiki for
official policies and such, which is typical with most other MediaWiki
sites.

For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be
something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of
adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document.  Not to
say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for the
membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their
Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department.  For example,
the Wikimedia Foundation's Privacy Policy is adopted by their Board of
Trustees.

I think we should have the following chain of events:

1.) Membership and officers collaborate together to build a draft of a
policy to adopt
2.) Possibly run it by legal counsel if we determine that it's something
that we want to have legally checked over
3.) Submit the policy to the Board for approval
4.) Board approves or denies the policy.  If they deny, go back to 1, else
go to 5
5.) Formally begin following the policy as approved by the Board

Chris


On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]>wrote:

>  Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a
> Proposal?  Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the
> space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it
> collects), it needs to be approved by the membership.
>
> I think that the current page should me move off of the SYNHAK:Privacy
> Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until the revision in
> question passes the Proposal stage.
>
> For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be
> something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of
> adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document.  Not to
> say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for the
> membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their
> Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department.  We don't have
> a Legal Department, so the closest thing we have is the Board.
>
> To give you an idea of who approves and implements privacy policies for
> various organizations:
>
> University of Akron: Office of General Counsel (Legal Department)
> Wikimedia Foundation: Board of Trustees
>
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 10/31/2013 04:17 PM, Andrew Buczko wrote:
>
> Nice job on the formatting.
>
>  I think what it means is that we can't change our rules to effect
> something that has already happened.
>
>  Lets say we change our policy to "We're going to sell our customers
> information on 31/Oct/2013" Now we can sell any info that NEW customers
> give us, but any customers that gave us info prior to 31/Oct/2013 can not
> be sold.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Agreed good catch. I did some editing, grammar fixes, and formatting so
>> it reads a little easier and there aren't so many redundant statements. I
>> also added a date so that people can see the effective date of the policy.
>> My only question is this:
>>
>>  How are we going to separate which information falls under which policy
>> revision as per the following statement:
>>
>>  *"changes will only apply to activities and information on*
>> *a going forward, not retroactive basis."*
>> *
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  On Thursday, October 31, 2013 01:40:41 PM Andrew Buczko wrote:
>>> > I just saw the the privacy policy link for our page is missing and or
>>> broke:
>>> >
>>> > https://synhak.org/wiki/SYNHAK:Privacy_policy
>>> >
>>> > This was discussed on 2013-01-24:
>>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals/Open
>>> > Did this just never happen? I did some searching but was unable to
>>> find any
>>> > drafts or copies of it on our site.
>>> >
>>> > I went ahead and edited in a Privacy Policy just so that we have one.
>>>  I
>>> > encourage everyone to review it and make suggestions. Since this is
>>> just
>>> > one that I copied off of the internet and may not fit perfectly for
>>> SynHak.
>>> >
>>> > Andy
>>>
>>>  huh, good catch. As far as I know, the only privacy policy we have is
>>> the one
>>> incorporated into our bylaws:
>>>
>>> "Any member records collected will be kept confidential except to execute
>>> Chapter 8, Inspection Rights or if prior written permission for public
>>> release
>>> is given by the member."
>>>
>>> That only applies to members though.
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>>
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