On Friday, November 01, 2013 08:04:22 AM Andrew Buczko wrote: > Good point Chris, I just took the "do-oqrocy" approach and quickly slap one > together. > > Can we put this as a proposal for next weeks meeting (05/Nov/2013)? That > way it can follow the proper course. > > Do you have a URL for a "non-SYNHAK-namespace" ?
In MediaWiki, a "Namespace" is that bit before the colon on a page name. The SYNHAK namespace is any page that starts with "SYNHAK:". The default namespace is technically called "Main" but is empty so you can get to the main page via :Main_Page. User pages are in the User namespace such as User:tdfischer, and templates like the navigation at the bottom of manual pages at Template:ManualPage. Further reading: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Namespaces > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]>wrote: > > Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a > > Proposal? Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the > > space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it > > collects), it needs to be approved by the membership. > > > > I think that the current page should be moved off of the SYNHAK:Privacy > > Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until it becomes official. > > > > Generally, I like to keep the SYNHAK:Whatever namespace on the wiki for > > > > official policies and such, which is typical with most other MediaWiki > > sites. > > > > For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be > > something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of > > adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document. Not to > > say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for > > the > > membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their > > Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department. For example, > > the Wikimedia Foundation's Privacy Policy is adopted by their Board of > > Trustees. > > > > I think we should have the following chain of events: > > > > 1.) Membership and officers collaborate together to build a draft of a > > policy to adopt > > 2.) Possibly run it by legal counsel if we determine that it's something > > that we want to have legally checked over > > 3.) Submit the policy to the Board for approval > > 4.) Board approves or denies the policy. If they deny, go back to 1, else > > go to 5 > > 5.) Formally begin following the policy as approved by the Board > > > > Chris > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a > >> > >> Proposal? Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the > >> space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it > >> collects), it needs to be approved by the membership. > >> > >> I think that the current page should me move off of the SYNHAK:Privacy > >> Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until the revision in > >> question passes the Proposal stage. > >> > >> For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be > >> something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of > >> adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document. Not > >> to > >> say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for > >> the > >> membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their > >> Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department. We don't > >> have > >> a Legal Department, so the closest thing we have is the Board. > >> > >> To give you an idea of who approves and implements privacy policies for > >> various organizations: > >> > >> University of Akron: Office of General Counsel (Legal Department) > >> Wikimedia Foundation: Board of Trustees > >> > >> > >> Chris > >> > >> > >> On 10/31/2013 04:17 PM, Andrew Buczko wrote: > >> > >> Nice job on the formatting. > >> > >> I think what it means is that we can't change our rules to effect > >> > >> something that has already happened. > >> > >> Lets say we change our policy to "We're going to sell our customers > >> > >> information on 31/Oct/2013" Now we can sell any info that NEW customers > >> give us, but any customers that gave us info prior to 31/Oct/2013 can not > >> be sold. > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Agreed good catch. I did some editing, grammar fixes, and formatting > >>> > >>> so it reads a little easier and there aren't so many redundant > >>> statements. > >>> I also added a date so that people can see the effective date of the > >>> > >>> policy. My only question is this: > >>> How are we going to separate which information falls under which > >>> > >>> policy revision as per the following statement: > >>> *"changes will only apply to activities and information on* > >>> > >>> *a going forward, not retroactive basis."* > >>> * > >>> * > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Torrie Fischer < > >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>>> On Thursday, October 31, 2013 01:40:41 PM Andrew Buczko wrote: > >>>> > I just saw the the privacy policy link for our page is missing and or > >>>> > >>>> broke: > >>>> > https://synhak.org/wiki/SYNHAK:Privacy_policy > >>>> > >>>> > This was discussed on 2013-01-24: > >>>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals/Open > >>>> > >>>> > Did this just never happen? I did some searching but was unable to > >>>> > >>>> find any > >>>> > >>>> > drafts or copies of it on our site. > >>>> > > >>>> > I went ahead and edited in a Privacy Policy just so that we have one. > >>>> > >>>> I > >>>> > >>>> > encourage everyone to review it and make suggestions. Since this is > >>>> > >>>> just > >>>> > >>>> > one that I copied off of the internet and may not fit perfectly for > >>>> > >>>> SynHak. > >>>> > >>>> > Andy > >>>> > >>>> huh, good catch. As far as I know, the only privacy policy we have is > >>>> > >>>> the one > >>>> incorporated into our bylaws: > >>>> > >>>> "Any member records collected will be kept confidential except to > >>>> execute > >>>> Chapter 8, Inspection Rights or if prior written permission for public > >>>> release > >>>> is given by the member." > >>>> > >>>> That only applies to members though. > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Discuss mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Discuss mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Discuss mailing > >> [email protected]https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss> > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
