Good point Chris, I just took the "do-oqrocy" approach and quickly slap one
together.

Can we put this as a proposal for next weeks meeting (05/Nov/2013)?  That
way it can follow the proper course.

Do you have a URL for a "non-SYNHAK-namespace" ?



On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]>wrote:

> Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a
> Proposal?  Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the
> space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it
> collects), it needs to be approved by the membership.
>
> I think that the current page should be moved off of the SYNHAK:Privacy
> Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until it becomes official.
>  Generally, I like to keep the SYNHAK:Whatever namespace on the wiki for
> official policies and such, which is typical with most other MediaWiki
> sites.
>
> For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be
> something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of
> adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document.  Not to
> say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for the
> membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their
> Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department.  For example,
> the Wikimedia Foundation's Privacy Policy is adopted by their Board of
> Trustees.
>
> I think we should have the following chain of events:
>
> 1.) Membership and officers collaborate together to build a draft of a
> policy to adopt
> 2.) Possibly run it by legal counsel if we determine that it's something
> that we want to have legally checked over
> 3.) Submit the policy to the Board for approval
> 4.) Board approves or denies the policy.  If they deny, go back to 1, else
> go to 5
> 5.) Formally begin following the policy as approved by the Board
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Chris Egeland <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a
>> Proposal?  Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the
>> space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it
>> collects), it needs to be approved by the membership.
>>
>> I think that the current page should me move off of the SYNHAK:Privacy
>> Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until the revision in
>> question passes the Proposal stage.
>>
>> For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be
>> something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of
>> adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document.  Not to
>> say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for the
>> membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their
>> Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department.  We don't have
>> a Legal Department, so the closest thing we have is the Board.
>>
>> To give you an idea of who approves and implements privacy policies for
>> various organizations:
>>
>> University of Akron: Office of General Counsel (Legal Department)
>> Wikimedia Foundation: Board of Trustees
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On 10/31/2013 04:17 PM, Andrew Buczko wrote:
>>
>> Nice job on the formatting.
>>
>>  I think what it means is that we can't change our rules to effect
>> something that has already happened.
>>
>>  Lets say we change our policy to "We're going to sell our customers
>> information on 31/Oct/2013" Now we can sell any info that NEW customers
>> give us, but any customers that gave us info prior to 31/Oct/2013 can not
>> be sold.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Agreed good catch. I did some editing, grammar fixes, and formatting
>>> so it reads a little easier and there aren't so many redundant statements.
>>> I also added a date so that people can see the effective date of the
>>> policy. My only question is this:
>>>
>>>  How are we going to separate which information falls under which
>>> policy revision as per the following statement:
>>>
>>>  *"changes will only apply to activities and information on*
>>> *a going forward, not retroactive basis."*
>>> *
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Torrie Fischer <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  On Thursday, October 31, 2013 01:40:41 PM Andrew Buczko wrote:
>>>> > I just saw the the privacy policy link for our page is missing and or
>>>> broke:
>>>> >
>>>> > https://synhak.org/wiki/SYNHAK:Privacy_policy
>>>> >
>>>> > This was discussed on 2013-01-24:
>>>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals/Open
>>>> > Did this just never happen? I did some searching but was unable to
>>>> find any
>>>> > drafts or copies of it on our site.
>>>> >
>>>> > I went ahead and edited in a Privacy Policy just so that we have one.
>>>>  I
>>>> > encourage everyone to review it and make suggestions. Since this is
>>>> just
>>>> > one that I copied off of the internet and may not fit perfectly for
>>>> SynHak.
>>>> >
>>>> > Andy
>>>>
>>>>  huh, good catch. As far as I know, the only privacy policy we have is
>>>> the one
>>>> incorporated into our bylaws:
>>>>
>>>> "Any member records collected will be kept confidential except to
>>>> execute
>>>> Chapter 8, Inspection Rights or if prior written permission for public
>>>> release
>>>> is given by the member."
>>>>
>>>> That only applies to members though.
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