On Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:11:39 PM Chris Egeland wrote:
> Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a
> Proposal?  Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the
> space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it
> collects), it needs to be approved by the membership.

ya, true, but we can just put a big disclaimer at the top of the page though.

> 
> I think that the current page should be moved off of the SYNHAK:Privacy
> Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until it becomes official.
>  Generally, I like to keep the SYNHAK:Whatever namespace on the wiki for
> official policies and such, which is typical with most other MediaWiki
> sites.
> 
> For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be
> something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of
> adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document.  Not to
> say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for the
> membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their
> Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department.  For example,
> the Wikimedia Foundation's Privacy Policy is adopted by their Board of
> Trustees.
> 
> I think we should have the following chain of events:
> 
> 1.) Membership and officers collaborate together to build a draft of a
> policy to adopt
> 2.) Possibly run it by legal counsel if we determine that it's something
> that we want to have legally checked over
> 3.) Submit the policy to the Board for approval
> 4.) Board approves or denies the policy.  If they deny, go back to 1, else
> go to 5
> 5.) Formally begin following the policy as approved by the Board
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Chris Egeland 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> >  Perhaps I'm missing something, but shouldn't the Privacy Policy be a
> > 
> > Proposal?  Yes, it's overdue to have, but because it changes rules of the
> > space (what the space is and isn't allowed to do with information that it
> > collects), it needs to be approved by the membership.
> > 
> > I think that the current page should me move off of the SYNHAK:Privacy
> > Policy page and moved to a non-SYNHAK-namespace until the revision in
> > question passes the Proposal stage.
> > 
> > For what it's worth, I personally think that a Privacy Policy should be
> > something approved by the Board, simply due to the bureaucratic nature of
> > adopting something that is effectively a legally binding document.  Not to
> > say that the membership shouldn't have input on it (the Board works for
> > the
> > membership, remember), but most other organizations either have their
> > Privacy Policies adopted by their Board or Legal Department.  We don't
> > have
> > a Legal Department, so the closest thing we have is the Board.
> > 
> > To give you an idea of who approves and implements privacy policies for
> > various organizations:
> > 
> > University of Akron: Office of General Counsel (Legal Department)
> > Wikimedia Foundation: Board of Trustees
> > 
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/31/2013 04:17 PM, Andrew Buczko wrote:
> > 
> > Nice job on the formatting.
> > 
> >  I think what it means is that we can't change our rules to effect
> > 
> > something that has already happened.
> > 
> >  Lets say we change our policy to "We're going to sell our customers
> > 
> > information on 31/Oct/2013" Now we can sell any info that NEW customers
> > give us, but any customers that gave us info prior to 31/Oct/2013 can not
> > be sold.
> > 
> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>  Agreed good catch. I did some editing, grammar fixes, and formatting so
> >> 
> >> it reads a little easier and there aren't so many redundant statements. I
> >> also added a date so that people can see the effective date of the
> >> policy.
> >> 
> >> My only question is this:
> >>  How are we going to separate which information falls under which policy
> >> 
> >> revision as per the following statement:
> >>  *"changes will only apply to activities and information on*
> >> 
> >> *a going forward, not retroactive basis."*
> >> *
> >> *
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]
> >> 
> >> > wrote:
> >>>  On Thursday, October 31, 2013 01:40:41 PM Andrew Buczko wrote:
> >>> > I just saw the the privacy policy link for our page is missing and or
> >>> 
> >>> broke:
> >>> > https://synhak.org/wiki/SYNHAK:Privacy_policy
> >>> 
> >>> > This was discussed on 2013-01-24:
> >>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Proposals/Open
> >>> 
> >>> > Did this just never happen? I did some searching but was unable to
> >>> 
> >>> find any
> >>> 
> >>> > drafts or copies of it on our site.
> >>> > 
> >>> > I went ahead and edited in a Privacy Policy just so that we have one.
> >>>  
> >>>  I
> >>>  
> >>> > encourage everyone to review it and make suggestions. Since this is
> >>> 
> >>> just
> >>> 
> >>> > one that I copied off of the internet and may not fit perfectly for
> >>> 
> >>> SynHak.
> >>> 
> >>> > Andy
> >>>  
> >>>  huh, good catch. As far as I know, the only privacy policy we have is
> >>> 
> >>> the one
> >>> incorporated into our bylaws:
> >>> 
> >>> "Any member records collected will be kept confidential except to
> >>> execute
> >>> Chapter 8, Inspection Rights or if prior written permission for public
> >>> release
> >>> is given by the member."
> >>> 
> >>> That only applies to members though.
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