In my opinon wec should put it off till next summer
On Jan 30, 2014 10:40 AM, "a l" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On the subject of the young aristotles program. We would probably finalize
> the dates that it will occur and begin actively promoting it. Additionally
> people who will be mentors/counselors should begin meeting and going over
> the curriculum so that we can make sure we have all of the materials we
> need.
> A concern i had was i don't know I'd we need any sort of certification to
> run a summer camp type activity, if we do it might be easier this year to
> piggy back on an Eestablished summer camp
>
> in excellence,
> Andrew L
> On Jan 29, 2014 2:17 PM, "Chris Egeland" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Allow me, as last night's note taker to apologize for my improper
>> wording.  I suppose a more accurate line item for the meeting's notes
>> would be as follows:
>>
>> * Matt has offered to step up and help run the Young Aristotles program
>> should the current program maintainer need or want the assistance.  He
>> has stated an interest in renaming the program to Lil' Archimedes.
>>
>> The way I worded it in the minutes does not accurately reflect the
>> announcement or conversation that followed thereafter.  I apologize for
>> the inaccurate wording causing drama.  The above line item more
>> accurately reflects what happened last night.
>>
>> Beth, Matt's announcement was not that he is tearing the program out
>> from under you, throwing away the work you've done, torching the
>> concept, and creating his own kids' program.  He simply offered to help
>> run it.
>>
>> I would recommend that Beth and Matt contact each other outside of the
>> list to resolve any communications issues that aren't being solved here.
>>
>> To clarify on the use of the word "office", I apologize for that.  I
>> misused a word that has a defined meaning within SYN/HAK's governmental
>> structure, apparently implying to some people that the person running
>> the program in question held some sort of elected, official position
>> within SYN/HAK.  This is not the case.  The proper term to use to
>> describe the person running the program would be "maintainer", since we
>> have a definition for that word which more accurately matches the role
>> Beth holds in regards to Little Aristotles.
>>
>> If anyone has any questions regarding last night's minutes, please ask
>> soon, while the meeting is still somewhat fresh in my head.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 1/29/2014 1:49 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote:
>> >> You are contradicting yourself.  The position that I was in was not an
>> >> office.  What you just sent was for offices.  I was asking why isn't
>> this
>> >> being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other
>> big
>> >> events that are taking place at SYN/HAK.
>> > Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about
>> > officers:
>> >
>> >> every office
>> > -- O. Rassi
>> >
>> > The way "backup positions" work in do-ocracies is simple and was
>> demonstrated
>> > last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of bandwidth,
>> or
>> > otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and motivation
>> steps
>> > up and grabs the reins.
>> >
>> > Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just
>> getting
>> > started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a
>> while, I got
>> > too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran it
>> for a
>> > bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time I'm
>> trying
>> > to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever steps
>> up. My
>> > hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer
>> >>
>> >> <[email protected]>wrote:
>> >>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote:
>> >>>> Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other
>> >>>> position? Why just this one?
>> >>> 7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers
>> >>> 7.7.1. Champion
>> >>> The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of the
>> >>> corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the Corporation's
>> >>> activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions
>> shall
>> >>> supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this
>> >>> corporation's
>> >>> purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of
>> >>> directors.
>> >>>
>> >>> -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf
>> >>>
>> >>> According to precident, this section says that champions are the
>> >>> alternates
>> >>> for all the offices.
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>> But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, "should a
>> vacancy
>> >>> in
>> >>>
>> >>>>> that office occur." Currently there is no vacancy nor is one
>> expected.
>> >>>>> From
>> >>>>> my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person in
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required function,
>> >>>>> whether
>> >>>>> its temporary or permanent.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Justin Herman <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been
>> working
>> >>> on
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in contact,
>> >>>>>> unlike
>> >>>>>> the treasury position.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel like
>> >>> what
>> >>>
>> >>>>>> they do is not valued. <NOT COOL>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> This NEEDS to be rectified.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan
>> >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>> >>>>>>> So if someone does take over it, they will be completely
>> >>>>>>> disregarding
>> >>>>>>> all the work I put into it?  Do they know how long it took to come
>> >>>>>>> up
>> >>>>>>> with
>> >>>>>>> that name?  Do they know we already have some lesson plans written
>> >>> out?
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>> Along with a syllabus?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but
>> it
>> >>>>>>>> seems as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or
>> >>> take
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>> reigns should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is
>> >>>>>>>> taking it
>> >>>>>>>> over at this time but after having the office of treasurer
>> >>> changeover
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>> it
>> >>>>>>>> has been suggested that alternates for important areas be
>> >>> identified.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>> This
>> >>>>>>>> is most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car,
>> >>>>>>>> without
>> >>>>>>>> transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just
>> >>> sharing a
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>> car
>> >>>>>>>> for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively
>> >>> taking
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>> over the project from you currently, I think this is just in
>> case.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan
>> >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> Ni hao, hakkers!
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that
>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>> minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
>> >>>>>>>>>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included
>> >>> them
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> in this mail for reading at your leisure:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> {{Infobox_meeting
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> |time=7PM
>> >>>>>>>>>> |date=2014-01-28
>> >>>>>>>>>> |venue=48 South Summit
>> >>>>>>>>>> |next=Meetings/2014-2-4
>> >>>>>>>>>> |previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> }}
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> = Agenda =
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
>> >>>>>>>>>> * '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> == Introduction and Names ==
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Andrew - Gets snow days
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have
>> >>>>>>>>>> their
>> >>>>>>>>>> computers fixed
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Andy - Leads
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Alex - Is rude and crude
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Mike - Shut no shut
>> >>>>>>>>>> * John - Folds paper
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Heard about us online with reddit
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> == Announcements ==
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace.  30' racecar
>> >>>>>>>>>> trailer filled with machines.  Laser cutter, 2 3d printers,
>> etc.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction.
>> >>>>>>>>>> Needs
>> >>>>>>>>>> committee members.  Not a traditional committee, interweb
>> >>> committee.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>>>>> like the word committee.  Needs 4-6 months to gather donations
>> >>>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>>>>>>> whatnot.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>  Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid
>> >>> more.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>  Need
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS.  Need an email list.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it
>> Lil'
>> >>>>>>>>>> Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around
>> March
>> >>>>>>>>>> * FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78
>> deposit
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here.
>>  $125.
>> >>>
>> >>>  Not
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> scheduled yet.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Gas through Dominion is in our name.  Needed a $238 deposit.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Water, we need to do that.  Chris will handle on Friday if he
>> >>> takes
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> the day off.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Buildout update: Not much has happened.  Need to clean,
>> >>>>>>>>>> pressure
>> >>>>>>>>>> wash, paint, etc.  Waiting on primer to show up.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Paint has showed up.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Back lights need bulbs.  We'll buy them next month.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * March 1, open house.  We need to get this done soon.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Friday is our deadline.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday.
>> >>>
>> >>>  If
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> you don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start
>> >>> working
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics.  Talk to her
>> if
>> >>> you
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> know
>> >>>>>>>>>> robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> == Membership ==
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes.  BRIBERY!
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Chris - What makes you happy?
>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky
>> family,
>> >>>>>>>>>> crafting, baking, anything Tolkien related.  Or Shakespeare
>> >>> related
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Devin - What is the poison in the cupcakes?
>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Hemlock
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Andrew - Cupcakes you're the most proud of?
>> >>>>>>>>>> ***  I like anything I put my peanut butter cream on.  I'm
>> >>> working on
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> a mountain dew recipe.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Andy: Ever put fireworks into cupcake concoctions?
>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Not yet.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Mike: What speech would you give for speakers bureau?
>> >>>>>>>>>> ***  Probably something to do with baking because that's what I
>> >>> do my
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> entire life.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Matt: WHo makes good curry?
>> >>>>>>>>>> *** You, pompous asshole.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Alex: Favorite ice cream?
>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Ben and Jerry's Late NIght Snack
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Devin: How can you benefit the snack?
>> >>>>>>>>>> *** I'm planning a silent auction to bring money to the space
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Alex: How can the space benefit you?
>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Unexcellence redacted.  It gives me a space to work on
>> that I
>> >>>>>>>>>> don't have room to work on at home.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Craig: Dog or cat?
>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Cat.  I was a dog person, but I despise my own dogs.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** '''APPROVED'''
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris Neer has applied for a key.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** "SYN/HAK is not always open during the time I have
>> available.
>> >>>
>> >>>  I
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> am sure this is the case for many others. So I would like a key
>> >>>>>>>>>> so
>> >>>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>>>>>>>> SYN/HAK could be open more often."
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** '''APPROVED'''
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> == Financial Report ==
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Funds in bank:
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $2543.25 in checking
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $400.37 in savings
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $158.60 in cash
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Current estimates are still on track for us to have a $300
>> >>>>>>>>>> loss
>> >>>>>>>>>> this month.  Polar vortex sucks.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $5801.04 assets
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $2746.71 in liabilities
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Electrician deal: We paid $1000, we owe $1000.  He gave us a
>> >>> $265
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> discount as a charitable donation.
>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Donating a NEC2013 book.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> == Proposals ==
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * None
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> == Discussion Items ==
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris is ordering trash service tomorrow.
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Torrie is trying to get in touch with the Akron Bar
>> >>> Association.
>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> * Omar? Where can people send physical things?
>> >>>>>>>>>> ** 12 E. Exchange St., Akron OH 44308 c/o SYN/HAK
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