If that's what everyone wants to do but we still need background checks for
all gathered volunteers .
Beth can we see your lesson plans and the planning you have put into the
camp so we can get an idea of where we are at
On Jan 30, 2014 10:46 AM, "a l" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think we have enough time to do it since Bethany apparently has lesson
> plans and activities made up. I'm under the impression all we have to do is
> get volunteers trained and advertise.
> Torrie has done done outreach to local schools so we might be able to get
> them involved to avoid certifications for SynHak
>
> regards,
> Andrew L
> On Jan 30, 2014 10:41 AM, "Becca Salchak" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In my opinon wec should put it off till next summer
>> On Jan 30, 2014 10:40 AM, "a l" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On the subject of the young aristotles program. We would probably
>>> finalize the dates that it will occur and begin actively promoting it.
>>> Additionally people who will be mentors/counselors should begin meeting and
>>> going over the curriculum so that we can make sure we have all of the
>>> materials we need.
>>> A concern i had was i don't know I'd we need any sort of certification
>>> to run a summer camp type activity, if we do it might be easier this year
>>> to piggy back on an Eestablished summer camp
>>>
>>> in excellence,
>>> Andrew L
>>> On Jan 29, 2014 2:17 PM, "Chris Egeland" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Allow me, as last night's note taker to apologize for my improper
>>>> wording.  I suppose a more accurate line item for the meeting's notes
>>>> would be as follows:
>>>>
>>>> * Matt has offered to step up and help run the Young Aristotles program
>>>> should the current program maintainer need or want the assistance.  He
>>>> has stated an interest in renaming the program to Lil' Archimedes.
>>>>
>>>> The way I worded it in the minutes does not accurately reflect the
>>>> announcement or conversation that followed thereafter.  I apologize for
>>>> the inaccurate wording causing drama.  The above line item more
>>>> accurately reflects what happened last night.
>>>>
>>>> Beth, Matt's announcement was not that he is tearing the program out
>>>> from under you, throwing away the work you've done, torching the
>>>> concept, and creating his own kids' program.  He simply offered to help
>>>> run it.
>>>>
>>>> I would recommend that Beth and Matt contact each other outside of the
>>>> list to resolve any communications issues that aren't being solved here.
>>>>
>>>> To clarify on the use of the word "office", I apologize for that.  I
>>>> misused a word that has a defined meaning within SYN/HAK's governmental
>>>> structure, apparently implying to some people that the person running
>>>> the program in question held some sort of elected, official position
>>>> within SYN/HAK.  This is not the case.  The proper term to use to
>>>> describe the person running the program would be "maintainer", since we
>>>> have a definition for that word which more accurately matches the role
>>>> Beth holds in regards to Little Aristotles.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone has any questions regarding last night's minutes, please ask
>>>> soon, while the meeting is still somewhat fresh in my head.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On 1/29/2014 1:49 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote:
>>>> > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote:
>>>> >> You are contradicting yourself.  The position that I was in was not
>>>> an
>>>> >> office.  What you just sent was for offices.  I was asking why isn't
>>>> this
>>>> >> being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating
>>>> other big
>>>> >> events that are taking place at SYN/HAK.
>>>> > Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about
>>>> > officers:
>>>> >
>>>> >> every office
>>>> > -- O. Rassi
>>>> >
>>>> > The way "backup positions" work in do-ocracies is simple and was
>>>> demonstrated
>>>> > last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of
>>>> bandwidth, or
>>>> > otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and
>>>> motivation steps
>>>> > up and grabs the reins.
>>>> >
>>>> > Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just
>>>> getting
>>>> > started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a
>>>> while, I got
>>>> > too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran
>>>> it for a
>>>> > bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time
>>>> I'm trying
>>>> > to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever
>>>> steps up. My
>>>> > hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure.
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer
>>>> >>
>>>> >> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> >>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote:
>>>> >>>> Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any
>>>> other
>>>> >>>> position? Why just this one?
>>>> >>> 7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers
>>>> >>> 7.7.1. Champion
>>>> >>> The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of
>>>> the
>>>> >>> corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the
>>>> Corporation's
>>>> >>> activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions
>>>> shall
>>>> >>> supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this
>>>> >>> corporation's
>>>> >>> purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of
>>>> >>> directors.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> According to precident, this section says that champions are the
>>>> >>> alternates
>>>> >>> for all the offices.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]
>>>> >
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, "should a
>>>> vacancy
>>>> >>> in
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>> that office occur." Currently there is no vacancy nor is one
>>>> expected.
>>>> >>>>> From
>>>> >>>>> my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person
>>>> in
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required
>>>> function,
>>>> >>>>> whether
>>>> >>>>> its temporary or permanent.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Justin Herman <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been
>>>> working
>>>> >>> on
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>> and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in
>>>> contact,
>>>> >>>>>> unlike
>>>> >>>>>> the treasury position.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel
>>>> like
>>>> >>> what
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>> they do is not valued. <NOT COOL>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> This NEEDS to be rectified.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan
>>>> >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>> So if someone does take over it, they will be completely
>>>> >>>>>>> disregarding
>>>> >>>>>>> all the work I put into it?  Do they know how long it took to
>>>> come
>>>> >>>>>>> up
>>>> >>>>>>> with
>>>> >>>>>>> that name?  Do they know we already have some lesson plans
>>>> written
>>>> >>> out?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Along with a syllabus?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion
>>>> but it
>>>> >>>>>>>> seems as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact
>>>> or
>>>> >>> take
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>> reigns should you become unable to work actively on it. No one
>>>> is
>>>> >>>>>>>> taking it
>>>> >>>>>>>> over at this time but after having the office of treasurer
>>>> >>> changeover
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> it
>>>> >>>>>>>> has been suggested that alternates for important areas be
>>>> >>> identified.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> This
>>>> >>>>>>>> is most likely a response to the accident totalling out your
>>>> car,
>>>> >>>>>>>> without
>>>> >>>>>>>> transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just
>>>> >>> sharing a
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> car
>>>> >>>>>>>> for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is
>>>> actively
>>>> >>> taking
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> over the project from you currently, I think this is just in
>>>> case.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan
>>>> >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ni hao, hakkers!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that
>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also
>>>> included
>>>> >>> them
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> in this mail for reading at your leisure:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> {{Infobox_meeting
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> |time=7PM
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> |date=2014-01-28
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> |venue=48 South Summit
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> |next=Meetings/2014-2-4
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> |previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> }}
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> = Agenda =
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Introduction and Names ==
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Andrew - Gets snow days
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> their
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> computers fixed
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Andy - Leads
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Alex - Is rude and crude
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Mike - Shut no shut
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * John - Folds paper
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Heard about us online with reddit
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Announcements ==
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace.  30'
>>>> racecar
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> trailer filled with machines.  Laser cutter, 2 3d printers,
>>>> etc.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Needs
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> committee members.  Not a traditional committee, interweb
>>>> >>> committee.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> like the word committee.  Needs 4-6 months to gather
>>>> donations
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> whatnot.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>  Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid
>>>> >>> more.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>  Need
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS.  Need an email list.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it
>>>> Lil'
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around
>>>> March
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78
>>>> deposit
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here.
>>>>  $125.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>  Not
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> scheduled yet.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Gas through Dominion is in our name.  Needed a $238
>>>> deposit.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Water, we need to do that.  Chris will handle on Friday if
>>>> he
>>>> >>> takes
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the day off.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Buildout update: Not much has happened.  Need to clean,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> pressure
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wash, paint, etc.  Waiting on primer to show up.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Paint has showed up.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Back lights need bulbs.  We'll buy them next month.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * March 1, open house.  We need to get this done soon.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Friday is our deadline.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu
>>>> Thursday.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>  If
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start
>>>> >>> working
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics.  Talk to
>>>> her if
>>>> >>> you
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> know
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Membership ==
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes.  BRIBERY!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Chris - What makes you happy?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky
>>>> family,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> crafting, baking, anything Tolkien related.  Or Shakespeare
>>>> >>> related
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Devin - What is the poison in the cupcakes?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Hemlock
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Andrew - Cupcakes you're the most proud of?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ***  I like anything I put my peanut butter cream on.  I'm
>>>> >>> working on
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> a mountain dew recipe.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Andy: Ever put fireworks into cupcake concoctions?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Not yet.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Mike: What speech would you give for speakers bureau?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ***  Probably something to do with baking because that's
>>>> what I
>>>> >>> do my
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> entire life.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Matt: WHo makes good curry?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** You, pompous asshole.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Alex: Favorite ice cream?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Ben and Jerry's Late NIght Snack
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Devin: How can you benefit the snack?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** I'm planning a silent auction to bring money to the space
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Alex: How can the space benefit you?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Unexcellence redacted.  It gives me a space to work on
>>>> that I
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> don't have room to work on at home.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Craig: Dog or cat?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Cat.  I was a dog person, but I despise my own dogs.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** '''APPROVED'''
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris Neer has applied for a key.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** "SYN/HAK is not always open during the time I have
>>>> available.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>  I
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> am sure this is the case for many others. So I would like a
>>>> key
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> so
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> SYN/HAK could be open more often."
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** '''APPROVED'''
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Financial Report ==
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Funds in bank:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $2543.25 in checking
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $400.37 in savings
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $158.60 in cash
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Current estimates are still on track for us to have a $300
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> loss
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> this month.  Polar vortex sucks.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $5801.04 assets
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** $2746.71 in liabilities
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Electrician deal: We paid $1000, we owe $1000.  He gave
>>>> us a
>>>> >>> $265
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> discount as a charitable donation.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *** Donating a NEC2013 book.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Proposals ==
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * None
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> == Discussion Items ==
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris is ordering trash service tomorrow.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** Torrie is trying to get in touch with the Akron Bar
>>>> >>> Association.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> * Omar? Where can people send physical things?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ** 12 E. Exchange St., Akron OH 44308 c/o SYN/HAK
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