On the subject of the young aristotles program. We would probably finalize
the dates that it will occur and begin actively promoting it. Additionally
people who will be mentors/counselors should begin meeting and going over
the curriculum so that we can make sure we have all of the materials we
need.
A concern i had was i don't know I'd we need any sort of certification to
run a summer camp type activity, if we do it might be easier this year to
piggy back on an Eestablished summer camp

in excellence,
Andrew L
On Jan 29, 2014 2:17 PM, "Chris Egeland" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Allow me, as last night's note taker to apologize for my improper
> wording.  I suppose a more accurate line item for the meeting's notes
> would be as follows:
>
> * Matt has offered to step up and help run the Young Aristotles program
> should the current program maintainer need or want the assistance.  He
> has stated an interest in renaming the program to Lil' Archimedes.
>
> The way I worded it in the minutes does not accurately reflect the
> announcement or conversation that followed thereafter.  I apologize for
> the inaccurate wording causing drama.  The above line item more
> accurately reflects what happened last night.
>
> Beth, Matt's announcement was not that he is tearing the program out
> from under you, throwing away the work you've done, torching the
> concept, and creating his own kids' program.  He simply offered to help
> run it.
>
> I would recommend that Beth and Matt contact each other outside of the
> list to resolve any communications issues that aren't being solved here.
>
> To clarify on the use of the word "office", I apologize for that.  I
> misused a word that has a defined meaning within SYN/HAK's governmental
> structure, apparently implying to some people that the person running
> the program in question held some sort of elected, official position
> within SYN/HAK.  This is not the case.  The proper term to use to
> describe the person running the program would be "maintainer", since we
> have a definition for that word which more accurately matches the role
> Beth holds in regards to Little Aristotles.
>
> If anyone has any questions regarding last night's minutes, please ask
> soon, while the meeting is still somewhat fresh in my head.
>
> Chris
>
> On 1/29/2014 1:49 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 13:20:54 Bethany Munyan wrote:
> >> You are contradicting yourself.  The position that I was in was not an
> >> office.  What you just sent was for offices.  I was asking why isn't
> this
> >> being done for any other positions, such as who is coordinating other
> big
> >> events that are taking place at SYN/HAK.
> > Sorry, I must've misinterpreted your question. I assumed it was about
> > officers:
> >
> >> every office
> > -- O. Rassi
> >
> > The way "backup positions" work in do-ocracies is simple and was
> demonstrated
> > last night: When someone says they're stepping down, out of bandwidth, or
> > otherwise dead to the world, someone else with the drive and motivation
> steps
> > up and grabs the reins.
> >
> > Another examle of this is the Speaker's Bureau. When SYNHAK was just
> getting
> > started, the Bureau was the first project I put together. After a while,
> I got
> > too busy and totally neglected it so someone else stepped up and ran it
> for a
> > bit. They too abandoned it, so I jumped in again, though this time I'm
> trying
> > to run it like a real project by piecing out the work to whoever steps
> up. My
> > hope is that there will no longer be one point of failure.
> >
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Torrie Fischer
> >>
> >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>> On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:29:22 Bethany Munyan wrote:
> >>>> Then why hasn't there been anything mentioned about it for any other
> >>>> position? Why just this one?
> >>> 7.7. Responsibilities of the Officers
> >>> 7.7.1. Champion
> >>> The Champions of this Corporation shall be the general managers of the
> >>> corporation and shall supervise, direct, and control the Corporation's
> >>> activities, affairs, and lesser officers. Additionally, Champions shall
> >>> supervise and direct each other in a manner consistent with this
> >>> corporation's
> >>> purpose. Each Champion shall receive a full vote on the board of
> >>> directors.
> >>>
> >>> -- http://static.synhak.org/documents/bylaws.pdf
> >>>
> >>> According to precident, this section says that champions are the
> >>> alternates
> >>> for all the offices.
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> But what was the discussion? It says in the minutes, "should a
> vacancy
> >>> in
> >>>
> >>>>> that office occur." Currently there is no vacancy nor is one
> expected.
> >>>>> From
> >>>>> my perspective, every office should identify an alternate person in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> event that the primary can no longer fulfill the required function,
> >>>>> whether
> >>>>> its temporary or permanent.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Justin Herman <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>> It seems very heavy handed to take a project someone has been
> working
> >>> on
> >>>
> >>>>>> and remove it from them. ESP since Bethany HAS remained in contact,
> >>>>>> unlike
> >>>>>> the treasury position.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Actions like this can make people who wish to contribute, feel like
> >>> what
> >>>
> >>>>>> they do is not valued. <NOT COOL>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This NEEDS to be rectified.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Bethany Munyan
> >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>>>>> So if someone does take over it, they will be completely
> >>>>>>> disregarding
> >>>>>>> all the work I put into it?  Do they know how long it took to come
> >>>>>>> up
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> that name?  Do they know we already have some lesson plans written
> >>> out?
> >>>
> >>>>>>> Along with a syllabus?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I arrived late so I didn't hear that part of the discussion but it
> >>>>>>>> seems as if Matt would either be an alternate point of contact or
> >>> take
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> reigns should you become unable to work actively on it. No one is
> >>>>>>>> taking it
> >>>>>>>> over at this time but after having the office of treasurer
> >>> changeover
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>> has been suggested that alternates for important areas be
> >>> identified.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>> is most likely a response to the accident totalling out your car,
> >>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>> transportation its hard to stay involved, unfortunately. Just
> >>> sharing a
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> car
> >>>>>>>> for me makes it hard to stay involved. Again, no one is actively
> >>> taking
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> over the project from you currently, I think this is just in case.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Bethany Munyan
> >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Why is someone taking over Young Aristotles?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Phong <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Ni hao, hakkers!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I've noticed that there was a meeting on 2014-01-28 and that the
> >>>>>>>>>> minutes are posted. They are visible on the web at
> >>>>>>>>>> https://synhak.org/wiki/Meetings/2014-1-28. I've also included
> >>> them
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> in this mail for reading at your leisure:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> {{Infobox_meeting
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> |time=7PM
> >>>>>>>>>> |date=2014-01-28
> >>>>>>>>>> |venue=48 South Summit
> >>>>>>>>>> |next=Meetings/2014-2-4
> >>>>>>>>>> |previous=Meetings/2014-1-21
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> }}
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> = Agenda =
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * '''Note Taker:''' Chris Egeland
> >>>>>>>>>> * '''Moderator:''' Torrie Fischer
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> == Introduction and Names ==
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Torrie Fischer - Makes robot companies
> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris Egeland - I troubleshoot ARP storms
> >>>>>>>>>> * Becca The Awesomeness (So Be It) - Makes Cakes
> >>>>>>>>>> * Andrew - Gets snow days
> >>>>>>>>>> * Matt - Fixes computers for people who can't afford to have
> >>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>> computers fixed
> >>>>>>>>>> * Andy - Leads
> >>>>>>>>>> * Devin - Turns on projectors with rakes and fixes things
> >>>>>>>>>> * Alex - Is rude and crude
> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris - May or may not have found a solution to his problem
> >>>>>>>>>> * Tim - Building a whiskey bottle filling machine
> >>>>>>>>>> * Mike - Shut no shut
> >>>>>>>>>> * John - Folds paper
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Heard about us online with reddit
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> == Announcements ==
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Devin is helping Louisville start a makerspace.  30' racecar
> >>>>>>>>>> trailer filled with machines.  Laser cutter, 2 3d printers, etc.
> >>>>>>>>>> * BEcca has started formulating ideas for a silent auction.
> >>>>>>>>>> Needs
> >>>>>>>>>> committee members.  Not a traditional committee, interweb
> >>> committee.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>> like the word committee.  Needs 4-6 months to gather donations
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> whatnot.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  Wants to get breweries to donate BEER for free so people bid
> >>> more.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>>  Need
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> to get cheap fingerfoods from GFS.  Need an email list.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Matt is going to take over Little Aristotles and rename it
> Lil'
> >>>>>>>>>> Archimedes should a vacancy in that office occur.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Tim is going to try to get a robotics club in here around
> March
> >>>>>>>>>> * FirstEnergy account moved to our name as of Jan 31. $78
> deposit
> >>>>>>>>>> * Torrie started a work order to get TWC moved over here.  $125.
> >>>
> >>>  Not
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> scheduled yet.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Gas through Dominion is in our name.  Needed a $238 deposit.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Water, we need to do that.  Chris will handle on Friday if he
> >>> takes
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the day off.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Buildout update: Not much has happened.  Need to clean,
> >>>>>>>>>> pressure
> >>>>>>>>>> wash, paint, etc.  Waiting on primer to show up.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Paint has showed up.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Back bathroom has a sink, not hooked up yet.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Discussion about floorplan of a 4000 sqft bikeshed
> >>>>>>>>>> * Back lights need bulbs.  We'll buy them next month.
> >>>>>>>>>> * March 1, open house.  We need to get this done soon.
> >>>>>>>>>> * We NEED to go to 21 and rip out electrical.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Friday is our deadline.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Keyholders of the old space need to turn in keys bu Thursday.
> >>>
> >>>  If
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> you don't, you'll get a stern talking to.
> >>>>>>>>>> * Torrie got the go-ahead from her daytime employer to start
> >>> working
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> part-time on her robotics company Phong Robotics.  Talk to her
> if
> >>> you
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>>> robotics, sensor networks, python, etc.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> == Membership ==
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Becca Salchak - reasons, oh cupcakes.  BRIBERY!
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Chris - What makes you happy?
> >>>>>>>>>> *** Other than spending time with her ridiculously geeky family,
> >>>>>>>>>> crafting, baking, anything Tolkien related.  Or Shakespeare
> >>> related
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Devin - What is the poison in the cupcakes?
> >>>>>>>>>> *** Hemlock
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Andrew - Cupcakes you're the most proud of?
> >>>>>>>>>> ***  I like anything I put my peanut butter cream on.  I'm
> >>> working on
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> a mountain dew recipe.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Andy: Ever put fireworks into cupcake concoctions?
> >>>>>>>>>> *** Not yet.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Mike: What speech would you give for speakers bureau?
> >>>>>>>>>> ***  Probably something to do with baking because that's what I
> >>> do my
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> entire life.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Matt: WHo makes good curry?
> >>>>>>>>>> *** You, pompous asshole.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Alex: Favorite ice cream?
> >>>>>>>>>> *** Ben and Jerry's Late NIght Snack
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Devin: How can you benefit the snack?
> >>>>>>>>>> *** I'm planning a silent auction to bring money to the space
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Alex: How can the space benefit you?
> >>>>>>>>>> *** Unexcellence redacted.  It gives me a space to work on that
> I
> >>>>>>>>>> don't have room to work on at home.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Craig: Dog or cat?
> >>>>>>>>>> *** Cat.  I was a dog person, but I despise my own dogs.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** '''APPROVED'''
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris Neer has applied for a key.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** "SYN/HAK is not always open during the time I have available.
> >>>
> >>>  I
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> am sure this is the case for many others. So I would like a key
> >>>>>>>>>> so
> >>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>> SYN/HAK could be open more often."
> >>>>>>>>>> ** '''APPROVED'''
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> == Financial Report ==
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Funds in bank:
> >>>>>>>>>> ** $2543.25 in checking
> >>>>>>>>>> ** $400.37 in savings
> >>>>>>>>>> ** $158.60 in cash
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Current estimates are still on track for us to have a $300
> >>>>>>>>>> loss
> >>>>>>>>>> this month.  Polar vortex sucks.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** $5801.04 assets
> >>>>>>>>>> ** $2746.71 in liabilities
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Electrician deal: We paid $1000, we owe $1000.  He gave us a
> >>> $265
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> discount as a charitable donation.
> >>>>>>>>>> *** Donating a NEC2013 book.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> == Proposals ==
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * None
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> == Discussion Items ==
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Chris is ordering trash service tomorrow.
> >>>>>>>>>> ** Torrie is trying to get in touch with the Akron Bar
> >>> Association.
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>>> * Omar? Where can people send physical things?
> >>>>>>>>>> ** 12 E. Exchange St., Akron OH 44308 c/o SYN/HAK
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