Also, I tend to go overboard sometimes, best to choose the simplest
solution that works, than to plan for every conceivable point of failure.


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alex,
>
> Yea that's why I linked outdoor antennas for Martin as an option to use
> with less expensive routers, dual band is good if there are 5Ghz devices
> inside the house so they don't place traffic on the 2.4Ghz band for devices
> outside the house, IF... hopefully Martin's RasPi is connected via 802.11n
> for better range than the "g" standard.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alex kot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Chris,
>> I guess they just slip the modem lease in my time warner bill.  That or
>> just screwed up my bill and are giving it to me for free.
>>
>> Omar,
>> Even high gain routers don't go through brick walls at all.  Having dual
>> band doesn't help much either 5.8 ghz gives you less range.  Probably your
>> best bet is to put the router next to the wall or use two routers and use
>> WDS for repeat mode.  Not a fan of "Range extenders" or "Wifi repeaters"
>> they kind of go against IEEE/ip standards.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:23 AM EST Omar Rassi wrote:
>>
>> >Alex, is that router going to be able to cover both the house and the
>> yard?
>> >I have a Linksys E3000 Dual Band and it's signal barely extends 50 feet
>> >beyond the walls of my house at 100% transmit power, they're also brick
>> >walls so that's a major factor with that. If Martin's house has brick
>> walls
>> >an outdoor antenna may be the way to go cover his yard like he wants.
>> >
>> >
>> >On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Torrie Fischer <
>> [email protected]>wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Tuesday, February 04, 2014 09:56:41 Chris Egeland wrote:
>> >> > Time Warner doesn't provide modems for free, they never have.  You
>> >> > either need to purchase the modem yourself (usually about $50) or
>> rent
>> >> > it for something like $5/mo.
>> >>
>> >> Technically they call it a lease. Mine was $7/mo.
>> >>
>> >> I bought this and have never had any issues with it:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XC6GJ0/
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > It's cheaper to buy the modem upfront, but renting has the advantage
>> of
>> >> > TWC replacing it should something go wrong.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chris
>> >> >
>> >> > On 2/4/2014 5:24 AM, alex kot wrote:
>> >> > > Usually Time Warner will provide a modem for free with the service
>> and
>> >> > > then charge you if you need a router.  If you need a modem any
>> DOCSIS
>> >> > > 2.0 or 3.0 modem will work, you can even find people sell them real
>> >> > > cheap on craigslist.  As for a router I would recommend Asus RT-N12
>> >> > > only $40 and gives you a rock solid router.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:00 AM, Omar Rassi
>> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > > with those requirements, you're looking at spending just that much
>> on
>> >> > > your wireless equipment.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Here is a decent modem
>> >> > > <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825124006>
>> and
>> >> this
>> >> > > is the same one I have for my TWC service.
>> >> > > <
>> >>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825153009&ignorebbr
>> >> > > =1> Here's a comparison of different mid-level wireless routers.
>> >> > > <
>> >>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=Property&N=10001
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> 0076%208000&IsNodeId=1&page=4&bop=And&CompareItemList=145%7C33-320-091%5E3
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> 3-320-091-TS%2C33-555-050%5E33-555-050-TS%2C33-704-177%5E33-704-177-TS%2C3
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> 3-320-131%5E33-320-131-TS%2C33-555-046%5E33-555-046-TS&percm=33-704-177%3A
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> %24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B33-320-131%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B33-555-046%3A
>> >> > > %24%24%24%24%24%24%24> I selected these model routers because they
>> >> support
>> >> > > dual band
>> >> > > capability, multiple 802.11 protocols, and multiple external
>> antennas
>> >> > > giving you the most coverage in the least complex setup. Keep in
>> mind
>> >> > > that getting your signal to penetrate through the house and cover
>> your
>> >> > > yard may still require the use of range extenders. Bear in mind
>> range
>> >> > > limits <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi#Range> and possible
>> sources
>> >> > > of interference <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1365> (another
>> list of
>> >> > > interference sources
>> >> > > <
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_interference_at_2.4_GHz
>> >> >,
>> >> > > and
>> >> > > another <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi#Interference>) when
>> >> > > planning to cover large areas, for devices that operate outside,
>> their
>> >> > > signal has to be able to travel the expected distance and penetrate
>> >> > > through the house to get to its closest access point. Another
>> option
>> >> > > could be to get an external outdoor antenna
>> >> > > <
>> >>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100010072%204
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> 0000342&IsNodeId=1&Description=outdoor%20antenna&name=Wireless%20Accessori
>> >> > > es&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=20&isdeptsrh=1> that can replace connect
>> to the
>> >> > > router and run that out to your roof for optimum outdoor coverage.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Trying to cover both indoor AND outdoor reliably can be difficult,
>> ask
>> >> > > Alex Kot, Chris Egeland, or Craig Bergdorf for more information as
>> I'm
>> >> > > most familiar with consumer grade product that may not achieve your
>> >> > > goal. And as someone who must coordinate voice radio comms coverage
>> >> > > between different sites every year, signal issues can be difficult
>> to
>> >> > > anticipate and troubleshoot.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Richard Johnson <
>> [email protected]
>> >> > >
>> >> > > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > >     I got a dumb modem at Wal-Mart for my twc. Get a nice router /
>> >> > >     WiFi device. Especially  if you need the range.
>> >> > >     On Feb 3, 2014 9:17 PM, "Martin Pinkston"
>> >> > >
>> >> > >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >         I am looking to get TW cable service.
>> >> > >         On their website they list comparable modems and routers.
>> >> > >         I am going for the $15. per month package.
>> >> > >         I keep trying to find a compatible unit at office max or
>> >> > >         staples, but can't seem to locate one.
>> >> > >         What I'm seeing seems to far surpass twc's requirements.
>> >> > >         The other requirement is that I will want to have the RPi
>> >> > >         sending video from it perched on my R/C lawn mower back to
>> my
>> >> > >         laptop.
>> >> > >         My yard is 100' x 200' with the house in the middle.
>> >> > >         And I'm not wanting to spend $200 on a modem/ router.
>> >> > >         Thanks in advance.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >         Martin Pinkston
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