If the range can't go outside, then he put the antenna outside he is going to
come across the same issue for indoor use. Also I am not sure why everyone
gets the assumption Wireless N has better range. The range is dealt with the
amplification of the radio, which Generally most SOHO/consumer wireless G
routers have better range then N since it wasn't as harshly regulated. You get
access with more channels per radio with N, but that doesn't really give you
any wider range. I can go over more details if you want at today's meeting.
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:05 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote:
Also, I tend to go overboard sometimes, best to choose the simplest solution
that works, than to plan for every conceivable point of failure.
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> wrote:
Alex,
>
>
>Yea that's why I linked outdoor antennas for Martin as an option to use with
>less expensive routers, dual band is good if there are 5Ghz devices inside the
>house so they don't place traffic on the 2.4Ghz band for devices outside the
>house, IF... hopefully Martin's RasPi is connected via 802.11n for better
>range than the "g" standard.
>
>
>
>On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:59 AM, alex kot <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Chris,
>>I guess they just slip the modem lease in my time warner bill. That or just
>>screwed up my bill and are giving it to me for free.
>>
>>Omar,
>>Even high gain routers don't go through brick walls at all. Having dual band
>>doesn't help much either 5.8 ghz gives you less range. Probably your best
>>bet is to put the router next to the wall or use two routers and use WDS for
>>repeat mode. Not a fan of "Range extenders" or "Wifi repeaters" they kind of
>>go against IEEE/ip standards.
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------------------
>>
>>On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 11:23 AM EST Omar Rassi wrote:
>>
>>>Alex, is that router going to be able to cover both the house and the yard?
>>>I have a Linksys E3000 Dual Band and it's signal barely extends 50 feet
>>>beyond the walls of my house at 100% transmit power, they're also brick
>>>walls so that's a major factor with that. If Martin's house has brick walls
>>>an outdoor antenna may be the way to go cover his yard like he wants.
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Torrie Fischer
>>><[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 04, 2014 09:56:41 Chris Egeland wrote:
>>>> > Time Warner doesn't provide modems for free, they never have. You
>>>> > either need to purchase the modem yourself (usually about $50) or rent
>>>> > it for something like $5/mo.
>>>>
>>>> Technically they call it a lease. Mine was $7/mo.
>>>>
>>>> I bought this and have never had any issues with it:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004XC6GJ0/
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > It's cheaper to buy the modem upfront, but renting has the advantage of
>>>> > TWC replacing it should something go wrong.
>>>> >
>>>> > Chris
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2/4/2014 5:24 AM, alex kot wrote:
>>>> > > Usually Time Warner will provide a modem for free with the service and
>>>> > > then charge you if you need a router. If you need a modem any DOCSIS
>>>> > > 2.0 or 3.0 modem will work, you can even find people sell them real
>>>> > > cheap on craigslist. As for a router I would recommend Asus RT-N12
>>>> > > only $40 and gives you a rock solid router.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:00 AM, Omar Rassi
>>>> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > > with those requirements, you're looking at spending just that much on
>>>> > > your wireless equipment.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Here is a decent modem
>>>> > > <http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825124006> and
>>>> this
>>>> > > is the same one I have for my TWC service.
>>>> > > <
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825153009&ignorebbr
>>>> > > =1> Here's a comparison of different mid-level wireless routers.
>>>> > > <
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=Property&N=10001
>>>> > >
>>>> 0076%208000&IsNodeId=1&page=4&bop=And&CompareItemList=145%7C33-320-091%5E3
>>>> > >
>>>> 3-320-091-TS%2C33-555-050%5E33-555-050-TS%2C33-704-177%5E33-704-177-TS%2C3
>>>> > >
>>>> 3-320-131%5E33-320-131-TS%2C33-555-046%5E33-555-046-TS&percm=33-704-177%3A
>>>> > >
>>>> %24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B33-320-131%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B33-555-046%3A
>>>> > > %24%24%24%24%24%24%24> I selected these model routers because they
>>>> support
>>>> > > dual band
>>>> > > capability, multiple 802.11 protocols, and multiple external antennas
>>>> > > giving you the most coverage in the least complex setup. Keep in mind
>>>> > > that getting your signal to penetrate through the house and cover your
>>>> > > yard may still require the use of range extenders. Bear in mind range
>>>> > > limits <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi#Range> and possible sources
>>>> > > of interference <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1365> (another list of
>>>> > > interference sources
>>>> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_interference_at_2.4_GHz
>>>> >,
>>>> > > and
>>>> > > another <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi#Interference>) when
>>>> > > planning to cover large areas, for devices that operate outside, their
>>>> > > signal has to be able to travel the expected distance and penetrate
>>>> > > through the house to get to its closest access point. Another option
>>>> > > could be to get an external outdoor antenna
>>>> > > <
>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100010072%204
>>>> > >
>>>> 0000342&IsNodeId=1&Description=outdoor%20antenna&name=Wireless%20Accessori
>>>> > > es&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=20&isdeptsrh=1> that can replace connect to the
>>>> > > router and run that out to your roof for optimum outdoor coverage.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Trying to cover both indoor AND outdoor reliably can be difficult, ask
>>>> > > Alex Kot, Chris Egeland, or Craig Bergdorf for more information as I'm
>>>> > > most familiar with consumer grade product that may not achieve your
>>>> > > goal. And as someone who must coordinate voice radio comms coverage
>>>> > > between different sites every year, signal issues can be difficult to
>>>> > > anticipate and troubleshoot.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Richard Johnson <[email protected]
>>>> > >
>>>> > > <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > > I got a dumb modem at Wal-Mart for my twc. Get a nice router /
>>>> > > WiFi device. Especially if you need the range.
>>>> > > On Feb 3, 2014 9:17 PM, "Martin Pinkston"
>>>> > >
>>>> > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > > I am looking to get TW cable service.
>>>> > > On their website they list comparable modems and routers.
>>>> > > I am going for the $15. per month package.
>>>> > > I keep trying to find a compatible unit at office max or
>>>> > > staples, but can't seem to locate one.
>>>> > > What I'm seeing seems to far surpass twc's requirements.
>>>> > > The other requirement is that I will want to have the RPi
>>>> > > sending video from it perched on my R/C lawn mower back to my
>>>> > > laptop.
>>>> > > My yard is 100' x 200' with the house in the middle.
>>>> > > And I'm not wanting to spend $200 on a modem/ router.
>>>> > > Thanks in advance.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Martin Pinkston
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