Ok well I will plsn on stopping down after I put SteveV to bed whether we are meeting or not On Feb 6, 2014 5:04 PM, "Craig Bergdorf" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm here now, but leaving in 30 mins to return around 9 tonight > On Feb 6, 2014 4:30 PM, "Becca Salchak" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I can be down at Synhak at like 9 tonight >> On Feb 6, 2014 4:13 PM, "Craig Bergdorf" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I'll happily draw it up as it's being discussed. I am also busy with >>> SparkAK this weekend, what about tonight at 8? If not, then how about >>> Monday? >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Craig Bergdorf <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Right here for #5 >>>> On Feb 6, 2014 2:58 PM, "Philip P. Patnode" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> So, who is going to be #5? >>>>> >>>>> Torrie @ 1324 >>>>> >>>>> Becca @ 1407 >>>>> >>>>> Justin @ 1408 >>>>> >>>>> Devin @ 1440 >>>>> >>>>> #5 @ ? >>>>> >>>>> Good to see that some of the members are interested and motivated to >>>>> get the new floorplan finalized. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM, [email protected] < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I volunteer myself for the committee. Can we meet tomorrow at 7pm at >>>>>> the space? >>>>>> >>>>>> Devin. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on >>>>>> Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> * From: * Becca Salchak <[email protected]>; >>>>>> * To: * SYN/HAK discussion list <[email protected]>; >>>>>> * Subject: * Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal >>>>>> * Sent: * Thu, Feb 6, 2014 7:07:38 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> Id like to volunteer myself for the committee >>>>>> On Feb 6, 2014 1:24 PM, "Torrie Fischer" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:31:45 Philip P. Patnode wrote: >>>>>>> > Torrie is doing what she needs to do in the face of the continuing >>>>>>> > bickering, deal making, personal agendas, ego-driven land grabs, >>>>>>> and the >>>>>>> > subtle obstructionism shown by some members over the floorplan. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > In the face of complete chaos and a looming deadline, form a >>>>>>> committee. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Yes, I am serious. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Following the philosophy of action as a "do'ocracy", some >>>>>>> motivated members >>>>>>> > should assemble to discuss the floorplan and make a final decision. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Five people, with sharp pencils and blank paper, can sketch out a >>>>>>> > compromise floorplan in under an hour. Add another half hour for >>>>>>> coffee >>>>>>> > and revisions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is an excellent idea. I think this could also be a wonderful >>>>>>> experiment >>>>>>> in an improved governance process for the space. Consensus is >>>>>>> starting to fall >>>>>>> apart. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There was recently a large thread on noisebridge-discuss along the >>>>>>> very same >>>>>>> lines. I will look at their discussion and see what happened. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm wholly in favor of such a committee producing a floorplan with >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> limited set of rules: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * The floorplan is binding on The Community until March 2nd at 00:00 >>>>>>> * No significant modifications may be done to the floorplan after the >>>>>>> floorplan is approved without majority approval from the committee >>>>>>> members >>>>>>> * Any committee member may declare a modification to be significant >>>>>>> such that >>>>>>> it is required to be approved by the committee >>>>>>> * The floorplan shall not include anything that cannot be >>>>>>> uninstalled, moved, >>>>>>> disassembled, or otherwise modified over a two day weekend after >>>>>>> March 3rd >>>>>>> without unaminous approval from the committee members >>>>>>> * The committee is dissolved on March 2nd at 00:00 >>>>>>> * Additions to the committee shall not change without majority >>>>>>> approval from >>>>>>> the committee members or a Membership proposal >>>>>>> * Committee discussion and voting is held on the build@ list >>>>>>> * The SYNHAK Secretary is responsible for maintaining the committee >>>>>>> membership >>>>>>> roster >>>>>>> * The roster and any other commitee records are made public to The >>>>>>> Membership >>>>>>> * Only Active Members in Good Standing are permitted to be a >>>>>>> committee member >>>>>>> * Committee members may resign at any time, only in writing to the >>>>>>> committee >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > After a decision has been made, print out a few copies to work >>>>>>> from and >>>>>>> > start moving stuff into the designated areas. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > The members will take it from there, knowing that a final >>>>>>> floorplan exists. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > If this doesn't sound like a workable solution, then just keep on >>>>>>> bickering >>>>>>> > and squabbling about where to put things or who gets his way about >>>>>>> this or >>>>>>> > that. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Of course, the opening day celebration might have to be moved to >>>>>>> August 1st >>>>>>> > if you keep up the noise level and refuse to cooperate with each >>>>>>> other. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Reminds me of 4th grade recess out on the parking lot... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Torrie Fischer >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> > > On Thursday, February 06, 2014 01:41:59 Craig Bergdorf wrote: >>>>>>> > > > What if the EE lab and general meeting area were connected >>>>>>> again in an >>>>>>> > > > L? Having the meeting area being the entire width we could fit >>>>>>> the 21 >>>>>>> > > > people we had at this weeks meeting. Also with a shrunken >>>>>>> machine shop >>>>>>> > > > from the first post to the floor drain, a clear shot to >>>>>>> load/unload from >>>>>>> > > > the garage door including the basement & 4x8 sheets to the >>>>>>> machine room. >>>>>>> > > > The right side of the back 40 is left out, a good classroom and >>>>>>> > > > something >>>>>>> > > > else could spaciously fit in there. I'm just trying to get 21 >>>>>>> unpacked. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > 2 >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > weeks, 2 days till the soft launch. >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > http://calculais.com/syn/2/5.1.pdf >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Replying to indicate that I have given up on caring about >>>>>>> floorplans since >>>>>>> > > any >>>>>>> > > such discussion inevitably ends up pissing me off when I get >>>>>>> told how >>>>>>> > > wrong my >>>>>>> > > ideas are without any real logical argument. >>>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> > > Discuss mailing list >>>>>>> > > [email protected] >>>>>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Discuss mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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