FYI A casual search in the tubes using the search term "ideal committee size" reveals that a committee of 1 is the best, but 5 is an efficient number to get something done.
More than five leads to excessive discussion and delayed decisions. Even numbers may result in a deadlock at voting time. I sincerely hope that the newly formed floorplan committee can meet and make a firm decision is under 2 hours. Start the meeting with a countdown timer on the table set for 2 hours. Assume the timer is hooked up to a briefcase full of over-stimulated Tribbles that it will open at the end of the countdown. With hope for some action, PPP On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Becca Salchak <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with Mike that way we can actually decide on something > On Feb 9, 2014 8:33 AM, "Michael Griesacker" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I would like to be on the committee as well, and am available Monday >> evening for a meeting. I think it appropriate to have an uneven number of >> members, and with Andrew being #6, I could fulfill that as #7. >> On Feb 7, 2014 12:06 AM, "Andrew Buczko" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I will like to be on the committee. >>> I can be there Monday. >>> And my membership is in good standing. >>> >>> Andy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 8:48 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I will be available monday afternoon as well. >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Torrie Fischer <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> *To:* SYN/HAK discussion list <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 6, 2014 5:09 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal >>>> >>>> On Thursday, February 06, 2014 16:12:00 Craig Bergdorf wrote: >>>> > I'll happily draw it up as it's being discussed. I am also busy with >>>> > SparkAK this weekend, what about tonight at 8? If not, then how about >>>> > Monday? >>>> >>>> Monday works. Lets do Monday. I'll be there after 6 PM for more >>>> painting, so >>>> can we get a committee working by 8PM? >>>> >>>> We don't need to decide today of course. I'm busy with SparkAK all >>>> weekend but >>>> I'll have e-mail of course. >>>> >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Craig Bergdorf <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > Right here for #5 >>>> > > >>>> > > On Feb 6, 2014 2:58 PM, "Philip P. Patnode" <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > >> So, who is going to be #5? >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Torrie @ 1324 >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Becca @ 1407 >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Justin @ 1408 >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Devin @ 1440 >>>> > >> >>>> > >> #5 @ ? >>>> > >> >>>> > >> Good to see that some of the members are interested and motivated >>>> to get >>>> > >> the new floorplan finalized. >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:40 PM, [email protected] < >>>> > >> >>>> > >> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>> I volunteer myself for the committee. Can we meet tomorrow at 7pm >>>> at the >>>> > >>> space? >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Devin. >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on >>>> > >>> Android<http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>>>> >>>> > >>> ------------------------------ >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> * From: * Becca Salchak <[email protected]>; >>>> > >>> * To: * SYN/HAK discussion list <[email protected]>; >>>> > >>> * Subject: * Re: [SH-Discuss] another zoning proposal >>>> > >>> * Sent: * Thu, Feb 6, 2014 7:07:38 PM >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> Id like to volunteer myself for the committee >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> On Feb 6, 2014 1:24 PM, "Torrie Fischer" < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> On Thursday, February 06, 2014 12:31:45 Philip P. Patnode wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Torrie is doing what she needs to do in the face of the >>>> continuing >>>> > >>>> > bickering, deal making, personal agendas, ego-driven land >>>> grabs, and >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> the >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > subtle obstructionism shown by some members over the floorplan. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > In the face of complete chaos and a looming deadline, form a >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> committee. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Yes, I am serious. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Following the philosophy of action as a "do'ocracy", some >>>> motivated >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> members >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > should assemble to discuss the floorplan and make a final >>>> decision. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Five people, with sharp pencils and blank paper, can sketch >>>> out a >>>> > >>>> > compromise floorplan in under an hour. Add another half hour >>>> for >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> coffee >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > and revisions. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> This is an excellent idea. I think this could also be a wonderful >>>> > >>>> experiment >>>> > >>>> in an improved governance process for the space. Consensus is >>>> starting >>>> > >>>> to fall >>>> > >>>> apart. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> There was recently a large thread on noisebridge-discuss along >>>> the very >>>> > >>>> same >>>> > >>>> lines. I will look at their discussion and see what happened. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> I'm wholly in favor of such a committee producing a floorplan >>>> with this >>>> > >>>> limited set of rules: >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> * The floorplan is binding on The Community until March 2nd at >>>> 00:00 >>>> > >>>> * No significant modifications may be done to the floorplan >>>> after the >>>> > >>>> floorplan is approved without majority approval from the >>>> committee >>>> > >>>> members >>>> > >>>> * Any committee member may declare a modification to be >>>> significant >>>> > >>>> such that >>>> > >>>> it is required to be approved by the committee >>>> > >>>> * The floorplan shall not include anything that cannot be >>>> uninstalled, >>>> > >>>> moved, >>>> > >>>> disassembled, or otherwise modified over a two day weekend after >>>> March >>>> > >>>> 3rd >>>> > >>>> without unaminous approval from the committee members >>>> > >>>> * The committee is dissolved on March 2nd at 00:00 >>>> > >>>> * Additions to the committee shall not change without majority >>>> approval >>>> > >>>> from >>>> > >>>> the committee members or a Membership proposal >>>> > >>>> * Committee discussion and voting is held on the build@ list >>>> > >>>> * The SYNHAK Secretary is responsible for maintaining the >>>> committee >>>> > >>>> membership >>>> > >>>> roster >>>> > >>>> * The roster and any other commitee records are made public to >>>> The >>>> > >>>> Membership >>>> > >>>> * Only Active Members in Good Standing are permitted to be a >>>> committee >>>> > >>>> member >>>> > >>>> * Committee members may resign at any time, only in writing to >>>> the >>>> > >>>> committee >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > After a decision has been made, print out a few copies to work >>>> from >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> and >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > start moving stuff into the designated areas. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > The members will take it from there, knowing that a final >>>> floorplan >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> exists. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > If this doesn't sound like a workable solution, then just keep >>>> on >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> bickering >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > and squabbling about where to put things or who gets his way >>>> about >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> this or >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > that. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Of course, the opening day celebration might have to be moved >>>> to >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> August 1st >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > if you keep up the noise level and refuse to cooperate with >>>> each >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> other. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Reminds me of 4th grade recess out on the parking lot... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Torrie Fischer >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > On Thursday, February 06, 2014 01:41:59 Craig Bergdorf wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > > What if the EE lab and general meeting area were connected >>>> again >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> in an >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > > > L? Having the meeting area being the entire width we could >>>> fit >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> the 21 >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > > > people we had at this weeks meeting. Also with a shrunken >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> machine shop >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > > > from the first post to the floor drain, a clear shot to >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> load/unload from >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > > > the garage door including the basement & 4x8 sheets to the >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> machine room. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > > > The right side of the back 40 is left out, a good >>>> classroom and >>>> > >>>> > > > something >>>> > >>>> > > > else could spaciously fit in there. I'm just trying to >>>> get 21 >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> unpacked. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > > 2 >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > > > weeks, 2 days till the soft launch. >>>> > >>>> > > > >>>> > >>>> > > > http://calculais.com/syn/2/5.1.pdf >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > > Replying to indicate that I have given up on caring about >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> floorplans since >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > > any >>>> > >>>> > > such discussion inevitably ends up pissing me off when I get >>>> told >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> how >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> > > wrong my >>>> > >>>> > > ideas are without any real logical argument. >>>> > >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>>> > > Discuss mailing list >>>> > >>>> > > [email protected] >>>> > >>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> > >>>> >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> > >>>> [email protected] >>>> > >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >>> Discuss mailing list >>>> > >>> [email protected] >>>> > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> > >> >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> > >> Discuss mailing list >>>> > >> [email protected] >>>> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Discuss mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Discuss mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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