On Mar 3, 2014 9:29 PM, Tomm Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I agree with Torrie. I am not a member (yet) but am new to the community and 
> in a situation where this would be a nice step to becoming a member. It would 
> give the psych a certain feeling of acceptance to allow for new members to 
> speak up a bit more and get to know the community better, quicker. The new 
> member (given the resources) could then also have opportunity to prove there 
> skills to the community making their acceptance much more likely and swift. 
> Further from this it gives a very established, professional feeling to the 
> new comer and welcomes them in, enriching within them to help build the 
> community and be constructive and creative. 
> One is more likely to buy an item, if they are given a sample at the front 
> door.
>
> Not to mention the availability this leaves for the website and digital 
> infrastructure down the road. If the service hosting were to increase, 
> associated members could then get a small webspace with limited priviledges 
> and quite possibly a shell with limited priviledges. This small introductory 
> corner would allow them the sandbox to prove their skills and begin to get a 
> taste of what the SYNHAK community is, in and outside of the facilities. As 
> Torrie was saying, these account types could also be tagged to an academic 
> tracking system that allows members to know and check who has been safety 
> trained to use what machines/tools and any concerns over such. This tagging 
> system could also be used as a means to keep notes on the users and raise 
> issues/concerns or honors/promotions of said associated member, to the 
> members. With maturity and incorporation, I would agree quite strongly with 
> Torrie about this being a rather foundational element of the beginning steps 
> of becoming a member. The structure would then lead towards established 
> professionalism, in turn then leading towards becoming a 501c down the road 
> and contribution to advancing said facilities could benefit the (associated) 
> members by tax exemption.

Em, you mean turn SH into a 501c3? Cuz we already are.

http://static.synhak.org/documents/bizops/501c3-letter.pdf

>
> Just a few agreeances and thoughts.
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> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, March 03, 2014 17:57:16 a l wrote:
>> > I didn't reply due to no concerns as the proposal is laid out here. I guess
>> > my question is: Why? Why does someone want to become an associate member?
>> > Are they allowed some small storage? They can't be a keyholder since that
>> > is a privilege of membership, so it wouldn't grant them additonal access to
>> > the space.  Perhaps I underestimate the draw of a completely arbitrary
>> > title.
>> > Since it doesn't really change much I have no reason to block it though.
>>
>> It establishes a web of trust model within the space and provides a sense of
>> belonging.
>>
>> If some unknown guest is milling about, one can easily request what their
>> username is and figure out if they are someone that the community trusts to 
>> be
>> at SYNHAK. By having a username, it also encourages them to use the
>> infrastructure on synhak.org more, namely the wiki.
>>
>> Additionally, I'm sure there are quite a few people who would love to say 
>> "I'm
>> a member of SYNHAK", especially visiting hackers. It gives a sense of
>> belonging.
>>
>> For example, I'm not a full Council Member of Noisebridge. I am, however, an
>> Associate Member. In a way, I am a part of the Noisebridge community more 
>> than
>> someone who isn't an Associate Member. It gives me warm fuzzies. <3
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Andrew L
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Torrie Fischer
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>> > > No discussion on a mechanism that has the potential to prevent future
>> > > tension?
>> > >
>> > > This makes me sad
>> > >
>> > > :(
>> > >
>> > > On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:29:34 Torrie Fischer wrote:
>> > > > I'd like to discuss the possibility of an additional class of members
>> > >
>> > > based
>> > >
>> > > > on the success I've seen of using it at Noisebridge. Right now, we've
>> > > > got
>> > > > just one class of members called Members. Some time ago, they 
>> > > > introduced
>> > >
>> > > a
>> > >
>> > > > second group called Associate Members. The procedure for becoming an
>> > > > associate member is pretty simple:
>> > > >
>> > > > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Membership#Associate_Members
>> > > >
>> > > > Essentially, you create a User wiki page, find four sponsors (who are
>> > >
>> > > other
>> > >
>> > > > associate members or regular members), then add a category tag to your
>> > >
>> > > page.
>> > >
>> > > > Associate members can't participate in governance or need to pay dues,
>> > >
>> > > but
>> > >
>> > > > it does give a sense of belonging and establishes a network of trust
>> > > > between active community participants who have not become full members
>> > >
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > > > full members. We're a lot more than just a tiny handful of maybe a 
>> > > > dozen
>> > > > active contributors!
>> > > >
>> > > > I think we can differ from NB's implementation by requiring that least
>> > >
>> > > one
>> > >
>> > > > of the four sponsors must be a full Member.
>> > > >
>> > > > Since I'm not a fan of using the wiki to maintain any kind of 
>> > > > membership
>> > > > records, I'd like to implement something like that in spiff as an
>> > > > implementation of the next milestone of a plugin architecture.
>> > > >
>> > > > Feedback, please!
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> Sincerely, Tomm Smith
> God bless
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