Meh, seems kind of pointless to me, if you want to join just join. SynHak is not an inclusive club.
On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]>wrote: > > On Mar 3, 2014 9:29 PM, Tomm Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I agree with Torrie. I am not a member (yet) but am new to the community > and in a situation where this would be a nice step to becoming a member. It > would give the psych a certain feeling of acceptance to allow for new > members to speak up a bit more and get to know the community better, > quicker. The new member (given the resources) could then also have > opportunity to prove there skills to the community making their acceptance > much more likely and swift. Further from this it gives a very established, > professional feeling to the new comer and welcomes them in, enriching > within them to help build the community and be constructive and creative. > > One is more likely to buy an item, if they are given a sample at the > front door. > > > > Not to mention the availability this leaves for the website and digital > infrastructure down the road. If the service hosting were to increase, > associated members could then get a small webspace with limited priviledges > and quite possibly a shell with limited priviledges. This small > introductory corner would allow them the sandbox to prove their skills and > begin to get a taste of what the SYNHAK community is, in and outside of the > facilities. As Torrie was saying, these account types could also be tagged > to an academic tracking system that allows members to know and check who > has been safety trained to use what machines/tools and any concerns over > such. This tagging system could also be used as a means to keep notes on > the users and raise issues/concerns or honors/promotions of said associated > member, to the members. With maturity and incorporation, I would agree > quite strongly with Torrie about this being a rather foundational element > of the beginning steps of becoming a member. The structure would then lead > towards established professionalism, in turn then leading towards becoming > a 501c down the road and contribution to advancing said facilities could > benefit the (associated) members by tax exemption. > > Em, you mean turn SH into a 501c3? Cuz we already are. > > http://static.synhak.org/documents/bizops/501c3-letter.pdf > > > > > Just a few agreeances and thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> On Monday, March 03, 2014 17:57:16 a l wrote: > >> > I didn't reply due to no concerns as the proposal is laid out here. I > guess > >> > my question is: Why? Why does someone want to become an associate > member? > >> > Are they allowed some small storage? They can't be a keyholder since > that > >> > is a privilege of membership, so it wouldn't grant them additonal > access to > >> > the space. Perhaps I underestimate the draw of a completely arbitrary > >> > title. > >> > Since it doesn't really change much I have no reason to block it > though. > >> > >> It establishes a web of trust model within the space and provides a > sense of > >> belonging. > >> > >> If some unknown guest is milling about, one can easily request what > their > >> username is and figure out if they are someone that the community > trusts to be > >> at SYNHAK. By having a username, it also encourages them to use the > >> infrastructure on synhak.org more, namely the wiki. > >> > >> Additionally, I'm sure there are quite a few people who would love to > say "I'm > >> a member of SYNHAK", especially visiting hackers. It gives a sense of > >> belonging. > >> > >> For example, I'm not a full Council Member of Noisebridge. I am, > however, an > >> Associate Member. In a way, I am a part of the Noisebridge community > more than > >> someone who isn't an Associate Member. It gives me warm fuzzies. <3 > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > regards, > >> > Andrew L > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Torrie Fischer > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > > No discussion on a mechanism that has the potential to prevent > future > >> > > tension? > >> > > > >> > > This makes me sad > >> > > > >> > > :( > >> > > > >> > > On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:29:34 Torrie Fischer wrote: > >> > > > I'd like to discuss the possibility of an additional class of > members > >> > > > >> > > based > >> > > > >> > > > on the success I've seen of using it at Noisebridge. Right now, > we've > >> > > > got > >> > > > just one class of members called Members. Some time ago, they > introduced > >> > > > >> > > a > >> > > > >> > > > second group called Associate Members. The procedure for becoming > an > >> > > > associate member is pretty simple: > >> > > > > >> > > > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Membership#Associate_Members > >> > > > > >> > > > Essentially, you create a User wiki page, find four sponsors (who > are > >> > > > >> > > other > >> > > > >> > > > associate members or regular members), then add a category tag to > your > >> > > > >> > > page. > >> > > > >> > > > Associate members can't participate in governance or need to pay > dues, > >> > > > >> > > but > >> > > > >> > > > it does give a sense of belonging and establishes a network of > trust > >> > > > between active community participants who have not become full > members > >> > > > >> > > and > >> > > > >> > > > full members. We're a lot more than just a tiny handful of maybe > a dozen > >> > > > active contributors! > >> > > > > >> > > > I think we can differ from NB's implementation by requiring that > least > >> > > > >> > > one > >> > > > >> > > > of the four sponsors must be a full Member. > >> > > > > >> > > > Since I'm not a fan of using the wiki to maintain any kind of > membership > >> > > > records, I'd like to implement something like that in spiff as an > >> > > > implementation of the next milestone of a plugin architecture. > >> > > > > >> > > > Feedback, please! > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > > Discuss mailing list > >> > > > [email protected] > >> > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >> > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Discuss mailing list > >> > > [email protected] > >> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Discuss mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Sincerely, Tomm Smith > > God bless > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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