Torrie, Thank you. I had not ran across that document in my navigating the Wiki.
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]>wrote: > On Monday, March 03, 2014 21:29:44 Tomm Smith wrote: > > I agree with Torrie. I am not a member (yet) but am new to the community > > and in a situation where this would be a nice step to becoming a member. > It > > would give the psych a certain feeling of acceptance to allow for new > > members to speak up a bit more and get to know the community better, > > quicker. The new member (given the resources) could then also have > > opportunity to prove there skills to the community making their > acceptance > > much more likely and swift. Further from this it gives a very > established, > > professional feeling to the new comer and welcomes them in, enriching > > within them to help build the community and be constructive and creative. > > One is more likely to buy an item, if they are given a sample at the > front > > door. > > > > Not to mention the availability this leaves for the website and digital > > infrastructure down the road. If the service hosting were to increase, > > associated members could then get a small webspace with limited > priviledges > > and quite possibly a shell with limited priviledges. This small > > introductory corner would allow them the sandbox to prove their skills > and > > begin to get a taste of what the SYNHAK community is, in and outside of > the > > facilities. As Torrie was saying, these account types could also be > tagged > > to an academic tracking system that allows members to know and check who > > has been safety trained to use what machines/tools and any concerns over > > such. This tagging system could also be used as a means to keep notes on > > the users and raise issues/concerns or honors/promotions of said > associated > > member, to the members. With maturity and incorporation, I would agree > > quite strongly with Torrie about this being a rather foundational element > > of the beginning steps of becoming a member. The structure would then > lead > > towards established professionalism, in turn then leading towards > becoming > > a 501c down the road and contribution to advancing said facilities could > > benefit the (associated) members by tax exemption. > > Sorry to reply twice to the same post, but this tagging/training system is > implemented in spiff: > > http://synhak.org/auth/ > > > > > Just a few agreeances and thoughts. > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Torrie Fischer > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > On Monday, March 03, 2014 17:57:16 a l wrote: > > > > I didn't reply due to no concerns as the proposal is laid out here. I > > > > > > guess > > > > > > > my question is: Why? Why does someone want to become an associate > > > > member? > > > > Are they allowed some small storage? They can't be a keyholder since > > > > that > > > > is a privilege of membership, so it wouldn't grant them additonal > access > > > > > > to > > > > > > > the space. Perhaps I underestimate the draw of a completely > arbitrary > > > > title. > > > > Since it doesn't really change much I have no reason to block it > though. > > > > > > It establishes a web of trust model within the space and provides a > sense > > > of > > > belonging. > > > > > > If some unknown guest is milling about, one can easily request what > their > > > username is and figure out if they are someone that the community > trusts > > > to be > > > at SYNHAK. By having a username, it also encourages them to use the > > > infrastructure on synhak.org more, namely the wiki. > > > > > > Additionally, I'm sure there are quite a few people who would love to > say > > > "I'm > > > a member of SYNHAK", especially visiting hackers. It gives a sense of > > > belonging. > > > > > > For example, I'm not a full Council Member of Noisebridge. I am, > however, > > > an > > > Associate Member. In a way, I am a part of the Noisebridge community > more > > > than > > > someone who isn't an Associate Member. It gives me warm fuzzies. <3 > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Andrew L > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Torrie Fischer > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > No discussion on a mechanism that has the potential to prevent > future > > > > > tension? > > > > > > > > > > This makes me sad > > > > > > > > > > :( > > > > > > > > > > On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:29:34 Torrie Fischer wrote: > > > > > > I'd like to discuss the possibility of an additional class of > > > > > > members > > > > > > > > > > based > > > > > > > > > > > on the success I've seen of using it at Noisebridge. Right now, > > > > > > we've > > > > > > got > > > > > > just one class of members called Members. Some time ago, they > > > > > > introduced > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > second group called Associate Members. The procedure for > becoming an > > > > > > associate member is pretty simple: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Membership#Associate_Members > > > > > > > > > > > > Essentially, you create a User wiki page, find four sponsors (who > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > associate members or regular members), then add a category tag to > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > page. > > > > > > > > > > > Associate members can't participate in governance or need to pay > > > > > > dues, > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > it does give a sense of belonging and establishes a network of > trust > > > > > > between active community participants who have not become full > > > > > > members > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > full members. We're a lot more than just a tiny handful of maybe > a > > > > > > dozen > > > > > > > > > active contributors! > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we can differ from NB's implementation by requiring that > > > > > > least > > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > of the four sponsors must be a full Member. > > > > > > > > > > > > Since I'm not a fan of using the wiki to maintain any kind of > > > > > > membership > > > > > > > > > records, I'd like to implement something like that in spiff as an > > > > > > implementation of the next milestone of a plugin architecture. > > > > > > > > > > > > Feedback, please! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Discuss mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Discuss mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > -- Sincerely, Tomm Smith God bless
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