On Sunday, March 09, 2014 19:41:26 Omar Rassi wrote: > Bingo, issue addressed, yes? I was writing my reasoning when Torrie sent > what she wrote but her wording was simpler and nailed what I was trying to > say. For those interested, here's what I wrote when Torrie posted the above. > > There is no registration with anyone involved. Its a simple statement of > the obvious that isn't targeting a specific activity yet addresses the > concerns of the individuals who have worries about liability. > For example, downloading child pornography is also illegal, don't do it at > Synhak. if something illicit were to ever become an issue that the > community is unable to handle then we can point to that statement of the > obvious to any official and be able to say "Synhak doesn't encourage this." > This scenario seems to be the heart of the concerns presented, not > necessarily drugs and alcohol. Personally, I would rather not have any > statement since laws don't magically become nullified when you walk through > Synhak's door but it appears some people want to say something.
PROTIP: Lets not make assumptions and just ask these "some people" directly in a private channel. kthx <3 > > On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]>wrote: > > On Sunday, March 09, 2014 19:23:31 Torrie Fischer wrote: > > > On Sunday, March 09, 2014 19:16:33 Omar Rassi wrote: > > > > I was thinking about a wording that would achieve the desired result, > > > > have > > > > > > a broad definition so that it covers all hypothetical problems and > > > > doesn't > > > > > > require any change in the future. It could read as follows: > > > > > > > > "Synhak Inc. expects all of its members, officers, and visitors to > > > > abide > > > > > > by > > > > federal, state and local law as required on the Synhak Inc. premises." > > > > > > > > It covers the concerns in this thread and more, its an established > > > > statement that Synhak Inc. doesn't condone unlawful activity and if > > > > the > > > > law > > > > changes, we don't have to go back and adjust it. > > > > > > I'm not sure I'm comfortable with stressing the fact that we're a > > > corporation. We're not; SYNHAK is a collective of people doing neat > > > > things. > > > > > It is a core value of the hacker to rebel against authority. Isn't > > > registering our activity with the government in exact opposition to > > > that? > > > Consider that for a bit. > > > > To explain a bit more, I think it would be fine to say "Don't do illegal > > things at SYNHAK, dummy. They're illegal. You can do those elsewhere." > > > > It doesn't say SYNHAK, Inc, and it still gets the message across. I've > > added > > it to the page. > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Omar Rassi <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > lol, did you really just do this now? > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Torrie Fischer > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > >> On Friday, March 07, 2014 13:44:47 Omar Rassi wrote: > > > > >> > I will summarize my points as I won't be able to make the board > > > > >> > meeting > > > > >> > > > > >> or > > > > >> > > > > >> > this Tuesday's meeting as I'll be blowing stuff up with C4 and > > > > >> > det > > > > >> > cord > > > > >> > that day: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > * There isnt now nor has ever been a pattern of substance abuse > > > > >> > at > > > > >> > > > > >> Synhak. > > > > >> > > > > >> > Late night hackers are not being solicited by people looking to > > > > buy > > > > > > >> drugs > > > > >> > > > > >> > or alcohol. The community has regulated itself on this matter. If > > > > >> > you're > > > > >> > concerned about another person, go and talk to them about it. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > * If the concern is safety, how does this make us more safe and > > > > less > > > > > > >> > liable? There are already liability waivers, and safety classes > > > > >> > REQUIRED > > > > >> > before you can use the machine shop. I'm sure the safety class > > > > covers > > > > > > >> usage > > > > >> > > > > >> > while under the influence. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > * If things do get out of hand on a day, the Akron police > > > > >> > downtown > > > > >> > > > > >> station > > > > >> > > > > >> > is .4 miles away, WALKING DISTANCE! All this stuff is already > > > > against > > > > > > >> the > > > > >> > > > > >> > law and so far, Synhak is known as a law abiding organization. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > * If we're concerned about illicit drugs and alcohol abuse to > > > > >> > formulate > > > > >> > policy, then lets go the extra mile, we need an acceptable use > > > > policy > > > > > > >> > to > > > > >> > get on the computers and internet while at the space since > > > > copyright > > > > > > >> > infringement is also illegal and we need ensure Synhak isn't > > > > liable > > > > > > >> > for > > > > >> > > > > >> a > > > > >> > > > > >> > visitor who downloads a song on our computer and internet > > > > connection. > > > > > > >> > * Lastly, if the membership decides that there should be a > > > > >> > written > > > > >> > > > > >> policy, > > > > >> > > > > >> > that policy must be written by a lawyer and then voted in, if the > > > > >> > > > > >> intent is > > > > >> > > > > >> > to protect the organization then it should be done by a legal > > > > expert. > > > > > > >> For > > > > >> > > > > >> > that matter, if legal protection is needed, we should keep a > > > > lawyer > > > > > > >> > on > > > > >> > a > > > > >> > retainer for consultation. > > > > >> > > > > >> its happening > > > > >> > > > > >> http://i.imgur.com/oVyfzv2.png > > > > >> > > > > >> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Tomm Smith <[email protected] > > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > Torrie, > > > > >> > > No worries. As I am sure the feeling is mutually perceived. The > > > > >> > > topic > > > > >> > > > > >> is > > > > >> > > > > >> > > sort of foundational to a collectivists community so the heat > > > > >> > > of > > > > >> > > > > >> emotion > > > > >> > > > > >> > > is > > > > >> > > bound to arise. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Tomm Smith < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > >> Torrie, > > > > >> > >> I understand maintaining the spirit of what the space is and > > > > what > > > > > > >> > >> the > > > > >> > >> root desire of the gathering is. However, being a legal > > > > >> > > > > >> establishment, > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> one > > > > >> > >> must abide legal stipulations to ensure that possible > > > > >> > >> neglected > > > > >> > > > > >> corners > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> of > > > > >> > >> circumstance do not bring a judicial situation that cripples > > > > the > > > > > > >> over all > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> community. Legal professionalism and personal hackerdom can > > > > >> > >> co-exist > > > > >> > > > > >> in > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> parallel and have no breaks in linearity. The legal paper work > > > > and > > > > > > >> > >> guidelines will only establish a certain order of conduct that > > > > has > > > > > > >> weight > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> communally, and legal coverage excluding the establishment > > > > >> > >> from > > > > >> > >> any > > > > >> > >> mindless fools wrecking the place. Granted said guidelines are > > > > not > > > > > > >> hoops > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> and boundaries causing a communistic totalitarian sort of > > > > >> > >> community. > > > > >> > > > > >> In > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> short, legal hackerdom does not last very long. > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> Omar, > > > > >> > >> I think the primary focus of the introduction of the rules and > > > > >> > >> regulations is to be strictly a paperwork thing to have sway > > > > >> > >> in > > > > >> > > > > >> court, > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> *GIVEN* a situation should arise. I could be wrong on this, it > > > > is > > > > > > >> simply > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> my > > > > >> > >> take of the primary reason for introducing such proposals. > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Torrie Fischer < > > > > >> > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > If its decided that we must have a drug and alcohol policy, > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> Pushing through a board vote without membership discussion > > > > >> > >>> doesn't > > > > >> > > > > >> mean > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> "it is > > > > >> > >>> decided", FWIW. > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:43:32 Omar Rassi wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > Is Synhak on trial for an incident that we now need to > > > > defend > > > > > > >> > >>> > ourselves > > > > >> > >>> > with policy and paperwork? If its decided that we must have > > > > a > > > > > > >> drug and > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > alcohol policy, then it should be written by a lawyer and > > > > not > > > > > > >> > >>> > by > > > > >> > > > > >> us > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> (unless > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > a member here has a law degree). > > > > >> > >>> > > > > > >> > >>> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Omar Rassi > > > > >> > >>> > <[email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > > How has Synhak supported drug use? Alcohol is in the > > > > fridge > > > > > > >> > >>> > > and > > > > >> > > > > >> only > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > adults consume it. The alcohol is brought in by adults > > > > with > > > > > > >> their > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > > own > > > > >> > >>> > > money, not one dime of funds from Synhak's coffers has > > > > gone > > > > > > >> > >>> > > to > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> alcohol. > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > Beer brewing is one our supported hacking activities, do > > > > we > > > > > > >> > >>> > > now > > > > >> > > > > >> need > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> to > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > have rules on that because people are getting out of > > > > control? > > > > > > >> > >>> > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Justin Herman < > > > > >> > > > > >> [email protected]> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > >> Omar, > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >> Yes the restaurant can be liable IF it can be proven > > > > >> > >>> > >> that > > > > >> > >>> > >> the > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> restaurant > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >> supported this activity. The issue becomes how good is > > > > our > > > > > > >> defense. > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >> Justin > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Omar Rassi < > > > > >> > > > > >> [email protected]> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > >>> So if someone snorts coke in a restaurant bathroom, the > > > > >> > > > > >> restaurant > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> is > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>> liable? Again, I should emphasize, I'm not against the > > > > >> > >>> > >>> idea, > > > > >> > > > > >> I'm > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> just > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>> against creating more regulation when there already > > > > exists > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>> the > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> law. It > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>> isn't any of our business what life choices people > > > > >> > >>> > >>> make. > > > > >> > >>> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Justin Herman < > > > > >> > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> >wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> Omar, > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> Without policy SynHak becomes compliant with legal > > > > issues > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> in > > > > >> > > > > >> the > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> space. > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> SynHak created the atmosphere for X to occur. Why? > > > > Because > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> we > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> wanted to > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> not > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> have rules is not valid legal defense. ESP since it > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> has > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> now > > > > >> > > > > >> been > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> brought up.>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Omar Rassi > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> Personally, I'm not interested in policing the space, > > > > I > > > > > > >> don't > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> come > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> there to keep on eye on other members and visitors. > > > > The > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> law > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> doesn't > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> disappear when you walk through the doors so I'm > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> wondering > > > > >> > > > > >> why > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> the > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> organizing needs to apply more paperwork and wording > > > > on > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> the > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> subject. > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Torrie Fischer < > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> On Friday, March 07, 2014 12:20:05 Omar Rassi wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > I'm taking this to mean that the liability waiver > > > > is > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > not > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> enough > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> anymore. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > Did something happen at the space recently? I'm > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > not > > > > >> > > > > >> exactly > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> against > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> this > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > idea but so far the majority of people that come > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > to > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > the > > > > >> > > > > >> space > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> and > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > participate have been adults of sound mind. Has > > > > this > > > > > > >> gotten > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> so out > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> of hand > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > that people are no longer able to look out for > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > eachother > > > > >> > > > > >> or > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > restrain > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > themselves so Synhak Inc. needs to step in and > > > > become > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > big > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> brother? > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> Yeah, thats my concern. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> I thought we were trying to stay away from > > > > pre-emptive > > > > > > >> rules > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> and were > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> capable > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> of policing ourselves like adults, or having in > > > > person > > > > > > >> > >>> conversations > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> to > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> address issues instead of slyly bringing up board > > > > vote > > > > > > >> topics > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> that > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> apply to > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> the whole membership three days before board > > > > meetings. > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> I think we need a bylaw amendment that the agenda > > > > for a > > > > > > >> board > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> meeting > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> must be > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> issued in full with any announcement. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> Am I allowed to bring issues up minutes before the > > > > board > > > > > > >> > >>> meeting? an > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> hour into > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> it? > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> I think I'll do that. I'll propose that we stop > > > > coddling > > > > > > >> the > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> community. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Justin Herman < > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> [email protected]> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > I think we need to set the option for you to be > > > > >> > > > > >> excused for > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> the > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> day with > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > the possibility of having membership terminated > > > > or > > > > > > >> banned > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> for > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > repeat/egregious behavior. Someone unwilling to > > > > >> > > > > >> cooperate > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > to > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> remove and > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > mitigate the issue and safety is of concern the > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > police > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> should be > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> called. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > I see a drug and alcohol policy as important as > > > > our > > > > > > >> safety > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> requirements as > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > it put everyone at risk. Not only can SynHak be > > > > held > > > > > > >> liable > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> but > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> the > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > members > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > and board who allow it to continue can be held > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > liable. > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> Safety is > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> of > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > concern > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > as someone could personally feel they are > > > > alright to > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > operate > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> machinery but > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > miss judge they capacity. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > These are awful concerns and no one likes to > > > > think > > > > > > >> about > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> someone > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> getting > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > hurt BUT without a policy SynHak can't have a > > > > leg to > > > > > > >> stand > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> on. > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Seeley, Tim > > > > >> > > > > >> (PSA-Akron) < > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> It might need to say something about what the > > > > adult > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> alcohol > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> permitted > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> behavior is. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> V/R > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Tim Seeley > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> From: [email protected] [mailto: > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> [email protected]] On > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Devin Wolfe > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:41 AM > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> To: [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Subject: [SH-Discuss] SYNHAK Drug Policy > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Hello all, > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Up until now there has been no formal drug > > > > policy > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> at > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> synhak. But > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> with > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> several complaints and concerns raised recently > > > > I > > > > > > >> feel it > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> is > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> time we > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> implement one. As a corporation we jeopardise > > > > >> > > > > >> ourselves if > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> we > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> just turn a > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> blind eye. Plus working around dangerous tools > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> while > > > > >> > > > > >> under > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> the > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> influence > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> is > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> a liability. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Here is the wording I plan on submitting to the > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> board: > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> SYNHAK INC. will not condone, endorse, or allow > > > > the > > > > > > >> use of > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> illegal drugs > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> or related illegal activities including but not > > > > >> > > > > >> limited to > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> illegal drug > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> use, possession, sale, manufacturing, transfer, > > > > >> > > > > >> providing > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> drugs > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> or > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> alcohol > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> to a minor, or consumption of drugs or alcohol > > > > by a > > > > > > >> minor, > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> as > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> defined and > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> stated in the Ohio Revised Code, any laws or > > > > set of > > > > > > >> laws > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> pertaining to > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> any > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> location where SYNHAK INC. is at that time > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> conducting > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> business. > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> This > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> pertains but is not limited to agents, > > > > >> > > > > >> representatives, > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> volunteers, > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> members, nonmembers, employees, and > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> contractors. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> I would like the hear everyone's opinion on > > > > this. > > > > > > >> Also do > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> we > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> need an > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> explicit procedure for discipline or removal if > > > > >> > > > > >> needed? > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Please do not accuse, slander, or otherwise > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> make > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> this > > > > >> > > > > >> a > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> personal > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> matter. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Keep names out of it. > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> In excellence, > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Devin Wolfe > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Sent with AquaMail for Android > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> http://www.aqua-mail.com > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > >>>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > >>>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > >>> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > >>> > >>> Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > >>> > >>> [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > >>> > >> > > > > >> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > >>> > >> Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > >>> > >> [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > >>> Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > >>> [email protected] > > > > >> > >>> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> -- > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> Sincerely, Tomm Smith > > > > >> > >> God bless > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > -- > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Sincerely, Tomm Smith > > > > >> > > God bless > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > Discuss mailing list > > > > >> > > [email protected] > > > > >> > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > >> > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> Discuss mailing list > > > > >> [email protected] > > > > >> https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Discuss mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
