in regards to the recent incident last tuesday, and, if memory serves,
there were two incidents with the same individual, was that member asked to
leave, and did someone sit down with that member the next day or after and
discuss their inappropriate behavior?


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Sunday, March 09, 2014 17:35:31 [email protected] wrote:
> > I feel that my suggestion was side stepped completely.
> > After receiving multiple verbal complaints, and a written formal
> complaint I
> > feel this has become a problem. Your suggestion doesn't allow SYNHAK to
> > really say anything other than "bad hacker, think about what you have
> > done". I don't want to see it degrade to people calling the police
> instead
> > of calmly resolving any issues within Synhak. The policy has nothing to
> do
> > with adult alcohol consumption or behavior as that is subject to opinion
> > and point of view. With this policy we can calmly and internally quell
>
> Sorry, I re-read this and just about spat my tea on my laptop.
>
> "Internally quell"?
>
> Devin, SYNHAK is an organization that values communication and
> transparency.
> This has never changed in the last two years.
>
> If someone has a complaint about another participant in the community, the
> solution is to get the two together and hash out their differences. If
> someone
> had come and complained to me that another member was doing something they
> didn't approve of, I would be sure to get the two together in a safe space
> and
> mediate. Somehow that hasn't actually needed to happen 'till all this
> boiled
> over. I think we should consider ourselves quite lucky.
>
> I've received some pretty nasty e-mails from individuals regarding
> misunderstandings about my financial reporting. So I talked with Chris and
> he's tried to reach out and get some mediation going. I think that was
> maybe
> 2-3 weeks ago. From what I can tell they're still upset and not telling me
> or
> Chris why that is. I say that because neither of us have heard back.
>
> "Internally quell" really comes off like a non-statement. This drug policy
> idea appears to be an attempt to wave some hands and hope the problem goes
> away without actually connecting the people in question to resolve their
> differences.
>
> Can I start complaining to you about the disrespect I get from various
> people?
> Is the solution to that an anti-harassment policy that just reiterates "Be
> Excellent To Others" without actually addressing the underlying issue of
> people thinking its OK to fill my day to day interactions with misery?
>
> No, not really. Nothing would change.
>
> I really want to get back to hacking. I'm tired of all this infighting and
> hearing whispers that people don't like me all while they refuse to talk
> to me
> about their issues even after directly asking them to do so.
>
> Can you please try to resolve these tensions in a proven manner instead of
> making big empty statements of "drugs are bad, mmmkay?" If you want, I'd be
> more than happy to bring in some professional mediators. I'll even pay
> them if
> thats what is needed.
>
> For some perspective of where I'm coming from, I'll bring up this quote
> that
> I've always looked back at regarding SYNHAK's governance and my ever
> vigilant
> fight against more rules:
>
> For we're excellent to each other here
> We rarely ever block
> We value tools over pre-emptive rules
> And spurn the key and the lock.
>        -- Danny O'Brien, 2010-11-09 general meeting notes, Noisebridge
>
> > these situations. If this is a matter best suited for the police, then
> that
> > should be the course of action the next time this situation arises.
> >
> > Regards
> > Devin Wolfe
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