On Sunday, March 09, 2014 22:57:13 Michael Griesacker wrote: > in regards to the recent incident last tuesday, and, if memory serves, > there were two incidents with the same individual, was that member asked to > leave, and did someone sit down with that member the next day or after and > discuss their inappropriate behavior?
I would assume "No". If someone gets asked to leave or a issue of unacceptable behavior does need brought up within the community, I'd expect to see it on discuss@. You can't really ask someone to leave and *not* tell everyone else that they're not allowed to stick around. > > On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 10:25 PM, Torrie Fischer <[email protected]>wrote: > > On Sunday, March 09, 2014 17:35:31 [email protected] wrote: > > > I feel that my suggestion was side stepped completely. > > > After receiving multiple verbal complaints, and a written formal > > > > complaint I > > > > > feel this has become a problem. Your suggestion doesn't allow SYNHAK to > > > really say anything other than "bad hacker, think about what you have > > > done". I don't want to see it degrade to people calling the police > > > > instead > > > > > of calmly resolving any issues within Synhak. The policy has nothing to > > > > do > > > > > with adult alcohol consumption or behavior as that is subject to opinion > > > and point of view. With this policy we can calmly and internally quell > > > > Sorry, I re-read this and just about spat my tea on my laptop. > > > > "Internally quell"? > > > > Devin, SYNHAK is an organization that values communication and > > transparency. > > This has never changed in the last two years. > > > > If someone has a complaint about another participant in the community, the > > solution is to get the two together and hash out their differences. If > > someone > > had come and complained to me that another member was doing something they > > didn't approve of, I would be sure to get the two together in a safe space > > and > > mediate. Somehow that hasn't actually needed to happen 'till all this > > boiled > > over. I think we should consider ourselves quite lucky. > > > > I've received some pretty nasty e-mails from individuals regarding > > misunderstandings about my financial reporting. So I talked with Chris and > > he's tried to reach out and get some mediation going. I think that was > > maybe > > 2-3 weeks ago. From what I can tell they're still upset and not telling me > > or > > Chris why that is. I say that because neither of us have heard back. > > > > "Internally quell" really comes off like a non-statement. This drug policy > > idea appears to be an attempt to wave some hands and hope the problem goes > > away without actually connecting the people in question to resolve their > > differences. > > > > Can I start complaining to you about the disrespect I get from various > > people? > > Is the solution to that an anti-harassment policy that just reiterates "Be > > Excellent To Others" without actually addressing the underlying issue of > > people thinking its OK to fill my day to day interactions with misery? > > > > No, not really. Nothing would change. > > > > I really want to get back to hacking. I'm tired of all this infighting and > > hearing whispers that people don't like me all while they refuse to talk > > to me > > about their issues even after directly asking them to do so. > > > > Can you please try to resolve these tensions in a proven manner instead of > > making big empty statements of "drugs are bad, mmmkay?" If you want, I'd > > be > > more than happy to bring in some professional mediators. I'll even pay > > them if > > thats what is needed. > > > > For some perspective of where I'm coming from, I'll bring up this quote > > that > > I've always looked back at regarding SYNHAK's governance and my ever > > vigilant > > fight against more rules: > > > > For we're excellent to each other here > > We rarely ever block > > We value tools over pre-emptive rules > > And spurn the key and the lock. > > > > -- Danny O'Brien, 2010-11-09 general meeting notes, Noisebridge > > > > > > these situations. If this is a matter best suited for the police, then > > > > that > > > > > should be the course of action the next time this situation arises. > > > > > > Regards > > > Devin Wolfe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list [email protected] https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
