Welcome, If you have given up i'de restart it as a less formal competition: if you want to be considered YOU buy a ledger sheet and show what it is you want. we'll all vote (not on a Tuesday) If you win, pay for it. For obvious reason our troll to member ratio is that of (deleted). It's a good idea, but the presentation was incorrect for the crowd you were addressing. (don't give a Tuesday meeting an opportunity to build something, the builders come other days and avoid Tuesdays like a wasp on meth.
Too many people think that Tuesday meetings is what we are, they were supposta be where should we steer, and open to the public ONLY for transparency. Next Wednesday I will be sitting on the stage doing approximately nothing (*tbd) If non-members and interested parties want to check out the space tell them to come check out me making paper airplanes live for one night only. The Tuesday meeting should be something you want to be at, not an idea that this will get me closer to the synhak's in-crowd if i show up for it as I have seen since the garage. Philip: I truly hope this continues, just don't bring it up on Tuesdays. This is something for the otherside of synhak (the side torrie, & omar gave up on squinting to see the dim candlelight of, and what imo "is synhak") is ready and willing to contribute to. The side that doesn't make it to the minutes because nothing official will ever happen. On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Steve Radonich IV <[email protected]>wrote: > Philip, > > I don't think there was a lack of enthusiasm for the contest. A lot of > members, myself included, were reluctant to commit SynHak to the contest > without the details of it finalized for a review. > > -Steve > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Philip P. Patnode" <[email protected]> > Sent: May 21, 2014 8:39 PM > To: "SYN/HAK discussion list" <[email protected]> > Subject: [SH-Discuss] garage door design contest > > TWIMC at SH > > Short version = The contest has been cancelled. > > Long version = > > Because I was feeling like I did not have sufficient support and > enthusiasm from the members of SYN/HAK for the garage door design contest I > created, I brought up the subject at last night's weekly meeting. > > Since the contest requires considerable time to create the individual > entries and marketing materials, plus requires an initial outlay of > personal funds, I wanted to get a quick Yes or No vote from the 14 SH > members present at the meeting. If a majority of members voted to continue > working on the contest or abandon the contest immediately, I would have > been able to end the discussion during the meeting within two minutes. A > positive outcome would have prompted further discussion after the meeting > or, online, through email. > > Unfortunately, the simple request for a quick vote turned to the usual > chaos we have all seen at the weekly meetings over the past few months when > new subjects and issues are presented. What should have been a two minute > exercise in group democracy rapidly descended into the all-too-common > middle-school playground fight, with petty bickering, silly suggestions, > frivolous warnings against undesirable images, and outright stupid > comments. There were a few good ideas about improving the contest, but it > was hard to concentrate with all the noise. > > Just because the contest winner would get 1/3 of the entry fees > collected is not a valid reason the make the entry fee evenly divisible by > 3. As the contest originator, why should I have to appeal to the > math-challenged contestant? Anybody who progressed past 6th grade should > not have a problem with a decimal or fractional reminder after performing a > numerical division. > > Several members brought up the apparently real possibility of lurking > artistic trolls who are just waiting for an opportunity to mess with a > contest and produce results in line with their anti-social agenda. I am > still waiting for the video or still photos of the anonymous trolls. > > I even had to defend the use of paint and/or decals as a safe medium > that would not interfere with the functionality of the garage door. I > wonder about such an imagination that ponders a winning design that might > require 35 coats of paint, weighing over 100 lbs. Or, maybe they thought > the use of a decal would somehow prevent the door from bending at the > hinges? > > After careful consideration and a willingness to accept a minor > financial loss, I have decided to end the contest before it ever got > started. > > The $55 collected from five people, from a total of eleven entries > purchased even before the final details were worked out, will be returned > to them in full. > > The $30 gift certificate for the contest winner that was made available > by Urban Eats Cafe and Patnode Photography will be converted to cash and > distributed back to the sponsors. > > The conversation about contest co-sponsorship with another downtown > business will be terminated. > > From a personal standpoint, I am withdrawing from any involvement in the > repair or repainting of the SH garage door. It is not my project and I > will not spend any time, money, or energy on it. Someone else can take it > on as a project, if they are so inclined. I also don't want to be > involved in any project concerning the exterior of the building, such as > signage, mailbox location, installing a RFID door entry system, use of a > garage door opener, CFLs for lighting, etc. Don't ask me for my opinion > about what the garage door should look like or what kind of signage should > be on the building or where to install the mailbox. I really don't care > about any of the possibilities. > > This incident has definitely had an adverse effect on my morale and > attitude about SYN/HAK and some of the members. I will be way more > cautious in the future before I try to do something positive for the > organization. There is a limit to the artificial drama, negativity, and > pettiness I am willing to tolerate. > > Sincerely, > > Philip > > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss >
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