On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 17:34:36 -0600, Ramon Sole <[email protected]>
wrote:
Dear Louis and CC members,
some members of the Spanish NLC project find that the current leader,
Alexandro Colorado, is incurring in a situation of Conflict of Interest
(COI). The grounds for that thoughts are the following:
Ramon,
For weeks I have been reading the big shakeup you have been caused to our
community. You have been pushing this conflict of interest for quite a
while and even if other members of the community have explain you several
times that such doesn't exist you have incisted in the issue. At the same
time, your work has been extremely limited in the community. Your only
contribution has been a paper that was translated by you in 2008. Since
then most of the emails have been to either claiming not agreen with our
changes or having it's members including myself under a shadier light that
needed.
- Alexandro has registered the domain documentfoundation.es to his name.
He's furthermore actively working with the TDF leaders on building and
promoting that domain, even within the Spanish OOo Community.
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=9186
That is a big assumption, honestly I dont time myself on the work I do for
TDF or OOo. At the moment I have been working on three different projects,
the OOo wiki help files have been updated as well on many oooES meetings
regarding the release of 3.3 from OOo. Saying that I have been working
more on TDF than OOo might actually be untrue since there is more work
right now in 3.3 release than others. Regardless of that I have been
working with the documentation team to get the starting guide for OOo up
to speed.
- Alexandro and other members have started a private project named
oooes.org, independent of OOo. Alexandro and those members are
encouraging people in the OOo project to leave OOo and migrate to that
private project.
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss_es&msgNo=24454
OOoES was started 3 years ago as a way to have a better syncronization of
the tasks for OOo. Giving the release of LibreOffice and also the increase
of tasks from ooo4kids in the past year and a half we have been discussing
the task of having a neutral channel of communication. This will allow us
better flexibility on organizing the work from this 3 projects so we
launched a mailing list that will allow us to do our job better. We have
never encourage anybody to leave OOo but on the contrary if you read the
letter. We want to show the commitment to the OOo project.
- Alexandro intends to migrate the lists and forums of OOo to that
private project oooes.org.
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss_es&msgNo=24472
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Organizacion/Log5JuntaOOoES
We never intended to migrate the forums, actually the forums have taught
us because of their unique position to handle the communication on the
mailing list on a similar arangement. Since the forums are sort of
independent, same way oooauthors.org which can extend their support to
other projects. Other projects like the BrOffice have a similar
configuration where they are able to handle their own infrastructure and
provide it's own services. oooES has been doing this for several years
with the services on Moodle and other peripheral sites cross-linked with
the collabnet site.
- Other members of the Spanish project with administration privileges
are also encouraging people to quit the OOo project and work on the
oooes.org site instead.
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=4674
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=4685
Again this is completley false, migrating list and quiting OOo project are
very different things. This migration plan was announced and handle a
public meetup to present possible disagreements, as far as I can tell,
there was not a big reasoning why this shouldn't be done. As you can see,
most of the people have spoken in approval of this proposal. Ariel,
Marcos, and yourself have been vocal on your disagreament. But the pros
outweights the cons and we have considered we gave the chance for everyone
to express their concerns. In the end most people have reacted positively
to the news. More important, the people that agree is the people that has
contributed the most ot this community through out it's 9 years history. I
don't think that people with such commitment has intend on just quiting.
Same goes to the this COI deal, I can argue that you have the same
position with your company being listed as supporter of the TDF. I think
what is more important your actual contributions, than your discussions on
a mailing list.
Some people on the Spanish project think that behavior is unacceptable
in a leader of the OOo Community. We tried to start a discussion in the
Spanish lists and asked for an explanation, but after several weeks we
hadn't any response from Alexandro about the COI. Furthermore, he is
I already responded to you earlier in the discussion
(http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=9188), I am
sorry I didn't continue replying. I need that time on things that can
provide a better benefit to the project. that time could be better
invested in actually improving the documentation or performing QA on this
upcoming 3.3 release. Perhaps I would be more interested in learning how
this proposal could affect negatively your job in the community?
insisting in moving people and information of OOo to the oooes.org site.
It seems he's practicing a strategy of avoid the topic and keep
"business as usual" as if nothing happened. I think we are in an
extraordinary circumstance, as defined in the Guidelines for
Participating in OpenOffice.org, where the CC should act. So I'm
publicly informing the OOo project leader and the CC of the situation
and asking for a new election of the leader, if you finally think the
COI exists.
Best Regards,
Ramon Sole
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Apreciados Louis y miembros del CC,
algunos miembros del proyecto NLC español pensamos que el actual leader,
Alexandro Colorado, está incurriendo en una situación de conflicto de
intereses (COI). Las razones para ello son las siguientes:
- Alexandro ha registrado el dominio documentfoundation.es a su nombre.
Además estña trabajando activamente con los líderes de TDF constuyendo y
promocionando el dominio, incluso en la Comunidad Hispana de OOo.
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=9186
- Alexandro y otros miembros han iniciado un proyecto privado llamado
oooes.org, independiente de OOo. Alexandro y esos miembros están
animando a la gente en el proyecto OOo a abandonar OOo y migrar a ese
nuevo proyecto privado.
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss_es&msgNo=24454
- Alexandro tiene intención de migrar las listas y foros de OOo a ese
proyecto privado oooes.org.
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=discuss_es&msgNo=24472
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/ES/Organizacion/Log5JuntaOOoES
- Otros miembros del proyecto en español de OOo con privilegios de
administradores están también animando a la gente a dejar el proyecto
OOo y trabajar en cambio en oooes.org
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=4674
http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=4685
Algunas personas del proyecto español pensamos que está conducta es
inaceptable en un lider de la Comunidad de OOo. Hemos intentado empezar
una discusión en las listas españolas y hemos pedido una explicación,
pero tras varias semanas no hemos tenido ninguna respuesta de Alexandro
sobre el conflicto de intereses. Al contrario, insiste en mover la gente
e información de OOo al sitio oooes.org site. Parece que está
practicando una estrategia de evitar el tema y mantener “las cosas como
están” como si nada ocurriese. Creo que se da una circunstancia
extraordinaria, según está definida en las "Líneas maestras para
participar en OpenOffice.org" en la cuál el CC debería actuar.
Por ello estoy informando públicamente al líder de OOo y al CC de la
situación y pidiendo una nueva elección de líder, si piensan que el
conflicto de intereses es real.
Saludos cordiales,
Ramon Sole
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