That's the point of MVC. The view is independent of the controller
and the data (er, model).
-dhs
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On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Burnham wrote:
My understanding is your model is a model of the application data,
and the data resulting from a call to an event is rendered in place
of the view. The controller orchestrates everything up through the
data rendering, then your front-end technology consumes the data for
display.
I guess in a general sense we're still talking MVC concepts, but the
framework itself doesn't render the view, and you are not accessing
any of the framework from the view.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Dean H. Saxe <[email protected]
> wrote:
The data is the model. The view is Flex/Ajax.
-dhs
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On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Burnham wrote:
I'd argue that by using Flex or Ajax you are not using MVC anymore,
but you are using a remote event-driven framework. The M & C would
still be there, but the framework doesn't render a view - it's
rendering data.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Dean H. Saxe <[email protected]
> wrote:
ORM has nothing to do with MVC. ORM is all about mapping objects to
relational databases. One can use MVC without objects and without a
relational database. Conversely, one can use an ORM without using
MVC. So the two sets of frameworks should not be confused.
-dhs
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Dean H. Saxe
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given by his fathers, but borrowed from his children." -- John
James Audubon
On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:
I'd argue that if you can't use one of these MVC frameworks with
Flex or AJAX, it might not be so MVC, eh? :)
Also to point out, ORMs are really a extension of these tools
mentioned, they are not MVC frameworks on their own.
Douglas Knudsen
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Teddy R. Payne <[email protected]
> wrote:
Flex calling a framework is a nice feature. Model-Glue, unless it
has changed recently, takes advantage of ColdSpring.
Using the RemoteObjectProxy in ColdSpring made it pretty simple to
create a webservice that calls the result of several dependent CFC
objects created in the application to be available as a
webservice. The RemoteObjectProxy also obfuscates the original CFC
and it dependent objects as the invocation code doesn't exist in the
generated proxy.
I see from the ColdBox architectural framework graphic that ColdBox
mentions LightWire. I would have to see how this would be achieved
in LightWire.
So, without using a Flex framework, my CFC calls are definitely made
easier when I consume a RemoteObject in Flex. The caveat here is
that ColdSpring or LightWire is YAF (Yet Another Framework).
Teddy
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