to add to this whole topic http://corfield.org/blog/index.cfm/do/blog.entry/entry/Introducing_FW1 Mr Corfield is at work on yet another framework....
Douglas Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com this is my signature, like it? On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Dean H. Saxe <[email protected]>wrote: > That's the point of MVC. The view is independent of the controller and the > data (er, model). > > -dhs > > -- > Dean H. Saxe > [email protected] > "A true conservationist is a person who knows that the world is not given > by his fathers, but borrowed from his children." -- John James Audubon > > > > > On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Burnham wrote: > > My understanding is your model is a model of the application data, and the >> data resulting from a call to an event is rendered in place of the view. >> The controller orchestrates everything up through the data rendering, then >> your front-end technology consumes the data for display. >> >> I guess in a general sense we're still talking MVC concepts, but the >> framework itself doesn't render the view, and you are not accessing any of >> the framework from the view. >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Dean H. Saxe < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> The data is the model. The view is Flex/Ajax. >> >> >> -dhs >> >> -- >> Dean H. Saxe >> [email protected] >> "A true conservationist is a person who knows that the world is not given >> by his fathers, but borrowed from his children." -- John James Audubon >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Burnham wrote: >> >> I'd argue that by using Flex or Ajax you are not using MVC anymore, but >> you are using a remote event-driven framework. The M & C would still be >> there, but the framework doesn't render a view - it's rendering data. >> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Dean H. Saxe < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> ORM has nothing to do with MVC. ORM is all about mapping objects to >> relational databases. One can use MVC without objects and without a >> relational database. Conversely, one can use an ORM without using MVC. So >> the two sets of frameworks should not be confused. >> >> -dhs >> >> -- >> Dean H. Saxe >> [email protected] >> "A true conservationist is a person who knows that the world is not given >> by his fathers, but borrowed from his children." -- John James Audubon >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 20, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Douglas Knudsen wrote: >> >> I'd argue that if you can't use one of these MVC frameworks with Flex or >> AJAX, it might not be so MVC, eh? :) >> >> Also to point out, ORMs are really a extension of these tools mentioned, >> they are not MVC frameworks on their own. >> >> >> Douglas Knudsen >> http://www.cubicleman.com >> this is my signature, like it? >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Teddy R. Payne <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Flex calling a framework is a nice feature. Model-Glue, unless it has >> changed recently, takes advantage of ColdSpring. >> >> Using the RemoteObjectProxy in ColdSpring made it pretty simple to create >> a webservice that calls the result of several dependent CFC objects created >> in the application to be available as a webservice. The RemoteObjectProxy >> also obfuscates the original CFC and it dependent objects as the invocation >> code doesn't exist in the generated proxy. >> >> I see from the ColdBox architectural framework graphic that ColdBox >> mentions LightWire. I would have to see how this would be achieved in >> LightWire. >> >> So, without using a Flex framework, my CFC calls are definitely made >> easier when I consume a RemoteObject in Flex. The caveat here is that >> ColdSpring or LightWire is YAF (Yet Another Framework). >> >> Teddy >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ >> http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform >> >> For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists >> Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ >> List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ >> http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform >> >> For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists >> Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ >> List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from this list, manage your profile @ > http://www.acfug.org?fa=login.edituserform > > For more info, see http://www.acfug.org/mailinglists > Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40acfug.org/ > List hosted by http://www.fusionlink.com > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >
