yikes! sounds like time to reset to zero.  May the bots be with you!

Douglas Knudsen
http://www.cubicleman.com
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On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Laurence MacNeill
<[email protected]>wrote:

> I can't even get the damn CF9 9.0.1 update to install...  I shut down all
> the services, including the Web Publishing Service of course, and the update
> says that CF9 is still running...  I even disabled all those services
> completely and rebooted, then tried the update again -- same problem.  How
> the hell can CF9 be running when it's been completely disabled?!  This
> stupid server is apparently all f****d up.
>
> So we're switching back to the old server...  Yuck.
>
> L.
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Laurence MacNeill <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what you mean by "where is it mapped to."  The CFIDE is
>> located in the E:\Inetpub\prereg\web directory, which is our web-root
>> directory.  Loading the CFAdministrator program and looking under Mappings,
>> it does show that folder next to the CFIDE entry.
>>
>> And, yes, <use-mappings> is set to true everywhere in the
>> remoting-config.xml file.
>>
>> L.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Eric DeCoff <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Laurence,
>>>
>>> Ok where is your cold fussion mapped too?
>>>
>>> do you have
>>>
>>> <use-mappings>true</use-mappings>
>>>
>>> in your remoting-config.xml
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Laurence MacNeill <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The ColdFusion .NET service wouldn't have anything to do with this,
>>>> would it?  That service is running on the working test-server, but it's not
>>>> running on the new live-server...
>>>>
>>>> The only other difference I can see between the two systems is that the
>>>> new live-server has version 9.0.0.251028 installed, whereas the test-server
>>>> has 9.0.1.274733 installed...  Could *that* be the issue?
>>>>
>>>> L.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM, [email protected] <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried starting CF from the command line - might help as CF
>>>>> shows everything going on from that vantage point?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> > -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFFUG Discuss] https CF9 flash-remoting broken on new
>>>>> web
>>>>> > server...
>>>>> > From: Laurence MacNeill **
>>>>> > Date: Tue, June 28, 2011 10:45 pm
>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Emphasis on "should be"  LOL  Yeah, that's why this is so confusing
>>>>> -- all the .cfm-based web-pages are working just fine...  It's only the 
>>>>> Flex
>>>>> stuff that's failing...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I really wish I knew more about IIS 7...  I keep coming back to that
>>>>> -- it's gotta be in there somewhere...  I've checked everything there is 
>>>>> to
>>>>> check in ColdFusion 9, and while I'm certainly no CF expert, I've done
>>>>> enough CF installs to know what to check -- it really just doesn't appear 
>>>>> to
>>>>> be a CF problem to me...  No errors in the logs, no exceptions, no nothing
>>>>> -- it all appears to be a completely normal CF install...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > That link you sent -- I went thru that when I upgraded from CF8 to
>>>>> CF9, back about 6 or 8 months ago...  I did check all that out again,
>>>>> though, just to make sure...  Seems like all my .xml files are correct...
>>>>> That's why this is just so darn frustrating...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks for the suggestions,
>>>>> > L.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:
>>>>> > well, as long as CFM pages are loading, IIS should be handing things
>>>>> off and returning them properly.  This should not interfere with CF and 
>>>>> the
>>>>> Flex services, never did for IIS 6, the last time I got near that mess :)
>>>>> Errors about the Flex services not starting should be in the CFAdmin logs
>>>>> section if there is a issue, I'd expect, though could be in the JEE logs
>>>>> instead.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > CF9 changed the config in this area a bit too
>>>>> >
>>>>> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WS5B9C73A8-5FA2-4a54-B0C6-CECA2E20052D.html
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Douglas Knudsen
>>>>> > http://www.cubicleman.com
>>>>> > this is my signature, like it?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Laurence MacNeill wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So, the built-in Flex services are not starting up or are
>>>>> misconfigured, then...  Gotta be that, because I've *never*  hard-coded
>>>>> anything in my services-config and remoting-config files...  Ever...  
>>>>> (Just
>>>>> for kicks, I'm checking them again -- but I gurarantee you there's no
>>>>> hard-coded links in there).   It's all {server.name} and
>>>>> {server.port}, etc, etc...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > My major question, now, is this -- how do I get the built-in Flex
>>>>> services to start up?  If those services aren't starting, why is there no
>>>>> error message in any of the logs?  Might it be an IIS 7 permissions issue 
>>>>> of
>>>>> some sort?  If so, to whom do I give permissions, and to what?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks,
>>>>> > L.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > if  http://localhost/flex2gateway fails to load a blank page, then
>>>>> the built in Flex services have not started up or are misconfigured.  Be
>>>>> sure your xml config files you copied have no hardcoded IPs or such.  In
>>>>> fact, there is no need to have domains or IPs in there, they make use of 
>>>>> JEE
>>>>> properties.  I would put the original services-config and remoting-config
>>>>> back in, restart, and test.  If  http://localhost/flex2gateway then
>>>>> loads a blank page, start from there.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'll also note, the crossdomain file will have naught to do with all
>>>>> this unless you are hosting a Flash app on ANOTHER server and pointing it 
>>>>> to
>>>>> your CF server.  Test this all out after localhost is working, go with the
>>>>> power of Ockham :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Douglas Knudsen
>>>>> > http://www.cubicleman.com
>>>>> > this is my signature, like it?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>  > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Eric DeCoff wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > When all else fails..
>>>>> > Go to the fiddler
>>>>> > http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Jun 28, 2011 9:06 AM, "Laurence MacNeill" wrote:> It appears to be
>>>>> working -- we can serve regular https:// pages with no
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > problems...
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Any ideas why I'm still getting a "500" error when I browse to
>>>>> > > http://localhost/flex2gateway ? I've tried every suggestion I
>>>>> could find on
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > Google when I searched... Nothing has made a diffference... (Well,
>>>>> I can't
>>>>> > > try re-installing CF9, like some of the suggestions say to do,
>>>>> because I
>>>>> > > don't have physical access to the machine... But one would think
>>>>> these
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > web-hosting guys would have a drive-image they'd use to create new
>>>>> > > web-servers, rather than having to go thru all the installation
>>>>> rigamarole
>>>>> > > every time they make a new server... So installation shouldn't be
>>>>> an issue,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > one would think...)
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Anyway... I'm still open to any suggestions... Thanks,
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > L.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Eric DeCoff wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Laurence,
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Have you checked to see
>>>>> > >> If your service on port 443 working
>>>>> > >> On Jun 28, 2011 1:47 AM, "Laurence MacNeill"
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>  > >> wrote:
>>>>> > >> > Progress? Maybe?
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > I browse to http://localhost/flex2gateway on the new server,
>>>>> and I get
>>>>> > >> the
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> > following:
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > 500
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > java.lang.NullPointerException
>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:285)
>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:543)
>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:203)
>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:320)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:428)
>>>>> > >> > at
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:266)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> > at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > That certainly seems to me like the problem, eh? If the
>>>>> flex2gateway
>>>>> > >> itself
>>>>> > >> > isn't working, then no matter what I do with the
>>>>> services-config.xml
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> file,
>>>>> > >> > it's not gonna work.
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > So -- the question now is, How do I fix the flex2gateway?
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > L.
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Laurence MacNeill
>>>>>  > >> > wrote:
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> >> Ok -- found the log files on Win 2008 / IIS 7...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> Here's the offending line:
>>>>> > >> >> 2011-06-28 04:20:58 ##.##.##.## POST /flex2gateway/cfamfsecure
>>>>> - 443 -
>>>>> > >> >> ##.##.##.##
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> Mozilla/5.0+(compatible;+MSIE+9.0;+Windows+NT+6.1;+WOW64;+Trident/5.0)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> 500 0
>>>>> > >> >> 0 405
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> (I've replaced the IP addresses with the '#'s in that line).
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> So -- the 500 error is at the end of the line there, but what
>>>>> does the
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> "0 0
>>>>> > >> >> 405" mean after the 500? Can that help me diagnose this problem
>>>>> somehow?
>>>>> > >> >> And why is there a problem anyway? Shouldn't it be doing
>>>>> exactly that?
>>>>> > >> >> Posting data to the /flex2gateway/cfamfsecure channel? I'm
>>>>> really not
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> sure
>>>>> > >> >> what's up with that...
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> L.
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Laurence MacNeill <
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>
>>>>> > >> >>> If I enable 32-bit apps, it breaks everything... Ran into this
>>>>> problem
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>> before trying to run 32-bit ColdFusion 8 on a 64-bit IIS.
>>>>> That's why we
>>>>> > >> >>> actually upgraded our old server to 64-bit ColdFusion 9 many
>>>>> months
>>>>> > >> ago...
>>>>> > >> >>> As far as errors in the logs are concerned -- any idea where
>>>>> those
>>>>> > >> might
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>> be on Windows 2008 with IIS 7 and CF 9? I've never used Win
>>>>> 2008 or IIS
>>>>> > >> 7
>>>>> > >> >>> 'till today... No clue where the logs are...
>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>> > >> >>> https certificates: We're using the same cert from the old
>>>>> server...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> Cert
>>>>> > >> >>> is working fine -- no browser certificate errors at all.
>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>> > >> >>> I will try again to clear out my browser cache(s)... Did it
>>>>> once
>>>>> > >> earlier
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>> when the problem first surfaced, but maybe it needs to be done
>>>>> again...
>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>> > >> >>> Thanks,
>>>>> > >> >>> L.
>>>>> > >> >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Marty Blood > >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>
>>>>> > >> >>>> A quick Google search turns up this link:
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> http://ppshein.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/internal-500-error-cf9-on-window-2008/
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>> So it might be that you just need to enable 32-bit apps to
>>>>> run in IIS
>>>>> > >> and
>>>>> > >> >>>> restart it.
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>> Barring that, a 500 status usually means it's the app server
>>>>> that's
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>> throwing an error. Did you see any errors in the CF9 logs or
>>>>> the IIS
>>>>> > >> logs?
>>>>> > >> >>>> Also, with https did you generate new certificates or are you
>>>>> using
>>>>> > >> the
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>> same ones from the old server? Can you verify they were
>>>>> installed
>>>>> > >> properly
>>>>> > >> >>>> in IIS and CF9? (I personally don't know how but you should
>>>>> be able to
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> get
>>>>> > >> >>>> your network admins to double check that or just make sure
>>>>> when you
>>>>> > >> connect
>>>>> > >> >>>> to a basic web resource served up by IIS you don't see any
>>>>> certificate
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>> errors).
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>> I'm guessing you've run through this but it can't hurt to ask
>>>>> if
>>>>> > >> you've
>>>>> > >> >>>> cleared out your cache (browser, temp files, flash cookies if
>>>>> you're
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> using
>>>>> > >> >>>> any Flex) in case something on the client side is caching
>>>>> references
>>>>> > >> to
>>>>> > >> >>>> keys, certs, hashes, who-knows-what that were generated by
>>>>> the old
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> server?
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>> Best of luck!
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>> -Marty
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Laurence MacNeill <
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>> I'm at my wit's end here...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>> We migrated everything over to a new server today... Win
>>>>> 2008, IIS 7,
>>>>> > >> >>>>> CF9... We were running Win 2003, IIS 6 on the old server
>>>>> (but still
>>>>> > >> had CF9
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>>> on the old one, so nothing should've changed there).
>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>> I copied the services-config.xml and the remoting-config.xml
>>>>> files
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> from
>>>>> > >> >>>>> the old server to the new one, since both the old one and
>>>>> the new one
>>>>> > >> have
>>>>> > >> >>>>> CF9 on them, and both are configured exactly the same way.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>> I copied our crossdomain.xml file as well. Shouldn't be any
>>>>> changes
>>>>> > >> >>>>> there, since the new server has the exact same domain-name
>>>>> as the old
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> server
>>>>> > >> >>>>> (because our domain-name now points to the new server).
>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>> So someone please tell me why I'm getting the following
>>>>> error:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>>> "Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.Failed:
>>>>> HTTP: Status
>>>>> > >> >>>>> 500: url: '
>>>>> https://www.mydomain.net/flex2gateway/cfamfsecure";
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>> I've checked everything I know to check... It's always been
>>>>> some kind
>>>>> > >> >>>>> of mis-configuration in the services-config or remote-config
>>>>> files
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>>> before... But not this time, apparently. I'm totally
>>>>> stumped. Could
>>>>> > >> it
>>>>> > >> >>>>> somehow be Win 2008 or IIS 7 that are causing the problem?
>>>>> Because
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> those
>>>>> > >> >>>>> are the only things that are different between the new
>>>>> server and the
>>>>> > >> old
>>>>> > >> >>>>> one...
>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>> Please help ASAP.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> > >> >>>>> L.
>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> > >> >>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >> >>>
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