Yeah, we're gonna get the web-hosting guys to re-format and re-install everything on the new server. Obviously something just wasn't right there from the get-go...
L. On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:12 PM, Eric DeCoff <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Eric DeCoff <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey Laurence found this in our mail-list archives :) >> >> >> *http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03302.html*<http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg03302.html> >> This is only a solution if you only use HTTPS completely on the site >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Knudsen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> yikes! sounds like time to reset to zero. May the bots be with you! >>> >>> >>> Douglas Knudsen >>> http://www.cubicleman.com >>> this is my signature, like it? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Laurence MacNeill < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I can't even get the damn CF9 9.0.1 update to install... I shut down >>>> all the services, including the Web Publishing Service of course, and the >>>> update says that CF9 is still running... I even disabled all those >>>> services >>>> completely and rebooted, then tried the update again -- same problem. How >>>> the hell can CF9 be running when it's been completely disabled?! This >>>> stupid server is apparently all f****d up. >>>> >>>> So we're switching back to the old server... Yuck. >>>> >>>> L. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Laurence MacNeill < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by "where is it mapped to." The CFIDE is >>>>> located in the E:\Inetpub\prereg\web directory, which is our web-root >>>>> directory. Loading the CFAdministrator program and looking under >>>>> Mappings, >>>>> it does show that folder next to the CFIDE entry. >>>>> >>>>> And, yes, <use-mappings> is set to true everywhere in the >>>>> remoting-config.xml file. >>>>> >>>>> L. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Eric DeCoff >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Laurence, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok where is your cold fussion mapped too? >>>>>> >>>>>> do you have >>>>>> >>>>>> <use-mappings>true</use-mappings> >>>>>> >>>>>> in your remoting-config.xml >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Laurence MacNeill < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The ColdFusion .NET service wouldn't have anything to do with this, >>>>>>> would it? That service is running on the working test-server, but it's >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> running on the new live-server... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only other difference I can see between the two systems is that >>>>>>> the new live-server has version 9.0.0.251028 installed, whereas the >>>>>>> test-server has 9.0.1.274733 installed... Could *that* be the issue? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> L. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:06 AM, [email protected] < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Have you tried starting CF from the command line - might help as CF >>>>>>>> shows everything going on from that vantage point? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hope that helps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > -------- Original Message -------- >>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFFUG Discuss] https CF9 flash-remoting broken on >>>>>>>> new web >>>>>>>> > server... >>>>>>>> > From: Laurence MacNeill ** >>>>>>>> > Date: Tue, June 28, 2011 10:45 pm >>>>>>>> > To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Emphasis on "should be" LOL Yeah, that's why this is so >>>>>>>> confusing -- all the .cfm-based web-pages are working just fine... >>>>>>>> It's >>>>>>>> only the Flex stuff that's failing... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I really wish I knew more about IIS 7... I keep coming back to >>>>>>>> that -- it's gotta be in there somewhere... I've checked everything >>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>> is to check in ColdFusion 9, and while I'm certainly no CF expert, >>>>>>>> I've done >>>>>>>> enough CF installs to know what to check -- it really just doesn't >>>>>>>> appear to >>>>>>>> be a CF problem to me... No errors in the logs, no exceptions, no >>>>>>>> nothing >>>>>>>> -- it all appears to be a completely normal CF install... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > That link you sent -- I went thru that when I upgraded from CF8 to >>>>>>>> CF9, back about 6 or 8 months ago... I did check all that out again, >>>>>>>> though, just to make sure... Seems like all my .xml files are >>>>>>>> correct... >>>>>>>> That's why this is just so darn frustrating... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Thanks for the suggestions, >>>>>>>> > L. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote: >>>>>>>> > well, as long as CFM pages are loading, IIS should be handing >>>>>>>> things off and returning them properly. This should not interfere >>>>>>>> with CF >>>>>>>> and the Flex services, never did for IIS 6, the last time I got near >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> mess :) Errors about the Flex services not starting should be in the >>>>>>>> CFAdmin logs section if there is a issue, I'd expect, though could be >>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>> JEE logs instead. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > CF9 changed the config in this area a bit too >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/ColdFusion/9.0/Developing/WS5B9C73A8-5FA2-4a54-B0C6-CECA2E20052D.html >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Douglas Knudsen >>>>>>>> > http://www.cubicleman.com >>>>>>>> > this is my signature, like it? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Laurence MacNeill wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > So, the built-in Flex services are not starting up or are >>>>>>>> misconfigured, then... Gotta be that, because I've *never* hard-coded >>>>>>>> anything in my services-config and remoting-config files... Ever... >>>>>>>> (Just >>>>>>>> for kicks, I'm checking them again -- but I gurarantee you there's no >>>>>>>> hard-coded links in there). It's all {server.name} and >>>>>>>> {server.port}, etc, etc... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > My major question, now, is this -- how do I get the built-in Flex >>>>>>>> services to start up? If those services aren't starting, why is there >>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>> error message in any of the logs? Might it be an IIS 7 permissions >>>>>>>> issue of >>>>>>>> some sort? If so, to whom do I give permissions, and to what? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Thanks, >>>>>>>> > L. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Douglas Knudsen wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > if http://localhost/flex2gateway fails to load a blank page, >>>>>>>> then the built in Flex services have not started up or are >>>>>>>> misconfigured. >>>>>>>> Be sure your xml config files you copied have no hardcoded IPs or >>>>>>>> such. In >>>>>>>> fact, there is no need to have domains or IPs in there, they make use >>>>>>>> of JEE >>>>>>>> properties. I would put the original services-config and >>>>>>>> remoting-config >>>>>>>> back in, restart, and test. If http://localhost/flex2gateway then >>>>>>>> loads a blank page, start from there. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > I'll also note, the crossdomain file will have naught to do with >>>>>>>> all this unless you are hosting a Flash app on ANOTHER server and >>>>>>>> pointing >>>>>>>> it to your CF server. Test this all out after localhost is working, >>>>>>>> go with >>>>>>>> the power of Ockham :) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Douglas Knudsen >>>>>>>> > http://www.cubicleman.com >>>>>>>> > this is my signature, like it? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Eric DeCoff wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > When all else fails.. >>>>>>>> > Go to the fiddler >>>>>>>> > http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/ >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Jun 28, 2011 9:06 AM, "Laurence MacNeill" wrote:> It appears to >>>>>>>> be working -- we can serve regular https:// pages with no >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > problems... >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Any ideas why I'm still getting a "500" error when I browse to >>>>>>>> > > http://localhost/flex2gateway ? I've tried every suggestion I >>>>>>>> could find on >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > Google when I searched... Nothing has made a diffference... >>>>>>>> (Well, I can't >>>>>>>> > > try re-installing CF9, like some of the suggestions say to do, >>>>>>>> because I >>>>>>>> > > don't have physical access to the machine... But one would think >>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > web-hosting guys would have a drive-image they'd use to create >>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>> > > web-servers, rather than having to go thru all the installation >>>>>>>> rigamarole >>>>>>>> > > every time they make a new server... So installation shouldn't >>>>>>>> be an issue, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > one would think...) >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > Anyway... I'm still open to any suggestions... Thanks, >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > L. >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Eric DeCoff wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > >> Laurence, >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >> Have you checked to see >>>>>>>> > >> If your service on port 443 working >>>>>>>> > >> On Jun 28, 2011 1:47 AM, "Laurence MacNeill" >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> > Progress? Maybe? >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > I browse to http://localhost/flex2gateway on the new server, >>>>>>>> and I get >>>>>>>> > >> the >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > following: >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > 500 >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > java.lang.NullPointerException >>>>>>>> > >> > at >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:285) >>>>>>>> > >> > at >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:543) >>>>>>>> > >> > at >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:203) >>>>>>>> > >> > at >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:320) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > at >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:428) >>>>>>>> > >> > at >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:266) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > That certainly seems to me like the problem, eh? If the >>>>>>>> flex2gateway >>>>>>>> > >> itself >>>>>>>> > >> > isn't working, then no matter what I do with the >>>>>>>> services-config.xml >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> file, >>>>>>>> > >> > it's not gonna work. >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > So -- the question now is, How do I fix the flex2gateway? >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > L. >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Laurence MacNeill >>>>>>>> > >> > wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> Ok -- found the log files on Win 2008 / IIS 7... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> Here's the offending line: >>>>>>>> > >> >> 2011-06-28 04:20:58 ##.##.##.## POST >>>>>>>> /flex2gateway/cfamfsecure - 443 - >>>>>>>> > >> >> ##.##.##.## >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> Mozilla/5.0+(compatible;+MSIE+9.0;+Windows+NT+6.1;+WOW64;+Trident/5.0) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> 500 0 >>>>>>>> > >> >> 0 405 >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> (I've replaced the IP addresses with the '#'s in that line). >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> So -- the 500 error is at the end of the line there, but >>>>>>>> what does the >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> "0 0 >>>>>>>> > >> >> 405" mean after the 500? Can that help me diagnose this >>>>>>>> problem somehow? >>>>>>>> > >> >> And why is there a problem anyway? Shouldn't it be doing >>>>>>>> exactly that? >>>>>>>> > >> >> Posting data to the /flex2gateway/cfamfsecure channel? I'm >>>>>>>> really not >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> sure >>>>>>>> > >> >> what's up with that... >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> L. >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:16 AM, Laurence MacNeill < >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> If I enable 32-bit apps, it breaks everything... Ran into >>>>>>>> this problem >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>> before trying to run 32-bit ColdFusion 8 on a 64-bit IIS. >>>>>>>> That's why we >>>>>>>> > >> >>> actually upgraded our old server to 64-bit ColdFusion 9 >>>>>>>> many months >>>>>>>> > >> ago... >>>>>>>> > >> >>> As far as errors in the logs are concerned -- any idea >>>>>>>> where those >>>>>>>> > >> might >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>> be on Windows 2008 with IIS 7 and CF 9? I've never used Win >>>>>>>> 2008 or IIS >>>>>>>> > >> 7 >>>>>>>> > >> >>> 'till today... No clue where the logs are... >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> https certificates: We're using the same cert from the old >>>>>>>> server... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> Cert >>>>>>>> > >> >>> is working fine -- no browser certificate errors at all. >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> I will try again to clear out my browser cache(s)... Did it >>>>>>>> once >>>>>>>> > >> earlier >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>> when the problem first surfaced, but maybe it needs to be >>>>>>>> done again... >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> > >> >>> L. >>>>>>>> > >> >>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Marty Blood > >wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> A quick Google search turns up this link: >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> http://ppshein.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/internal-500-error-cf9-on-window-2008/ >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> So it might be that you just need to enable 32-bit apps to >>>>>>>> run in IIS >>>>>>>> > >> and >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> restart it. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> Barring that, a 500 status usually means it's the app >>>>>>>> server that's >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> throwing an error. Did you see any errors in the CF9 logs >>>>>>>> or the IIS >>>>>>>> > >> logs? >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> Also, with https did you generate new certificates or are >>>>>>>> you using >>>>>>>> > >> the >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> same ones from the old server? Can you verify they were >>>>>>>> installed >>>>>>>> > >> properly >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> in IIS and CF9? (I personally don't know how but you >>>>>>>> should be able to >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> get >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> your network admins to double check that or just make sure >>>>>>>> when you >>>>>>>> > >> connect >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> to a basic web resource served up by IIS you don't see any >>>>>>>> certificate >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> errors). >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> I'm guessing you've run through this but it can't hurt to >>>>>>>> ask if >>>>>>>> > >> you've >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> cleared out your cache (browser, temp files, flash cookies >>>>>>>> if you're >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> using >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> any Flex) in case something on the client side is caching >>>>>>>> references >>>>>>>> > >> to >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> keys, certs, hashes, who-knows-what that were generated by >>>>>>>> the old >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> server? >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> Best of luck! >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> -Marty >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:28 PM, Laurence MacNeill < >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> I'm at my wit's end here... >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> We migrated everything over to a new server today... Win >>>>>>>> 2008, IIS 7, >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> CF9... We were running Win 2003, IIS 6 on the old server >>>>>>>> (but still >>>>>>>> > >> had CF9 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> on the old one, so nothing should've changed there). >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> I copied the services-config.xml and the >>>>>>>> remoting-config.xml files >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> from >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> the old server to the new one, since both the old one and >>>>>>>> the new one >>>>>>>> > >> have >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> CF9 on them, and both are configured exactly the same >>>>>>>> way. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> I copied our crossdomain.xml file as well. Shouldn't be >>>>>>>> any changes >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> there, since the new server has the exact same >>>>>>>> domain-name as the old >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> server >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> (because our domain-name now points to the new server). >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> So someone please tell me why I'm getting the following >>>>>>>> error: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> "Channel.Connect.Failed error NetConnection.Call.Failed: >>>>>>>> HTTP: Status >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> 500: url: ' >>>>>>>> https://www.mydomain.net/flex2gateway/cfamfsecure"; >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> I've checked everything I know to check... It's always >>>>>>>> been some kind >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> of mis-configuration in the services-config or >>>>>>>> remote-config files >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> before... But not this time, apparently. I'm totally >>>>>>>> stumped. Could >>>>>>>> > >> it >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> somehow be Win 2008 or IIS 7 that are causing the >>>>>>>> problem? Because >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> those >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> are the only things that are different between the new >>>>>>>> server and the >>>>>>>> > >> old >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> one... >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> Please help ASAP. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> L. >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >> >>>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, simply email the list with >>>>>>>> unsubscribe in the subject line >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For more info, see http://www.affug.com >>>>>>>> Archive @ http://www.mail-archive.com/discussion%40affug.com/ >>>>>>>> List hosted by FusionLink <http://www.fusionlink.com/> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Eric R. 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