On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Shad L. Lords wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Charlie Brady wrote:
> 
> > > We could use something much more lightweight.  But the tools in 
> > > place make it very easy to build packages without having to worry 
> > > about having the right environment.  Developers just need to commit 
> > > changes and submit a build request.  Everything else happens 
> > > automatically.
> >
> > To build packages, maybe. But isos aren't built automatically. Your WIP
> > isos build and distribution process using jigdo on the client side
> > requires a lot of unnecessary client end storage. I haven't looked at the
> > fedora iso build process in a long time - do you still need root to update
> > anaconda?
> 
> To build the ISOs I just need to run two scripts. 

Yes, *you* do. So that's a bottleneck.

> One to rebuild installer with branding/updated packages and one to 
> compose the ISO, calculate checksums and build the jigdo files.  The 
> main reason I use jigdo to distribute the WIP ISOs is to save on the 
> bandwidth coming out of my location.

Would zsync or rsync not save the same bandwidth?

>  If we had unlimited and unmetered bandwidth then it would be
> easy enough to have a daily ISO automatically built and available for
> everyone.

Understood. But I don't think jigdo is the right solution.

> There are still parts of rebuilding anaconda that need root or
> sudo access but this isn't a problem if the scripts are written the correct
> way.

In what way isn't it a problem?

> I'm not saying I've had a perfect track record with the hosting I've done.
> But, the amount of time due to hacks or breaches I feel has been
> significantly less then it would have been had the system remained on a
> single host as it was before I took it over.

Yep, no doubt about that.
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