On 18/01/13 21:24, Greg Zartman wrote: > > Ive been part of this community for nearly 15 years and I cant think of > anytime over the last 15 years that any significant project > decisions/direction have been made by the community on these mailing > lists. As far as I can recall, all of them were made by what ever > corporate entity, or business, that controlled the project at that > time. In between these corporate entities, and businesses, driving > the decisions; nothing happens. Yes, we talk about it like we are > now, then the talking stops and nothing happens. > > Fact is, unless developers want to work for free, then the only way > this project is going to happen is if it is run like a business. > Business decisions arent democratic. Someone has to ultimately make > the call, decision, or whatever. > > SMEs current structure simply does not work. This is why the project is > 3 years, at most, from being dead. >
No arguments there IMHO. As far as I am concerned I will work at it until it is gets a pulse or drops dead. 'Stuff' has happened in the past. That was yesterday. Tomorrow is another day. We can't forget yesterday as there are valuable lessons to be learned from history. As far as I am concerned NOTHING is out. We have to try all avenues. This is now 2013. Times have changed massively, even in 4 years. We have to go with what is happening now, and cut our cloth accordingly. The old ways clearly DIDN'T work. Sorry if that offends, but its true. Change or die. We need more modern collaboration tools. People are used to different forms of comms theses days. We need to embrace that, and make it work. Personally I hate Facebook and it's ilk. But people are USED to instant comms, and somehow we have to accommodate that. As I said before, lists are great, but they are soulless. Tonight on IRC I have chatted with a few people. Casually. It was FUN for godssake ! The most fun I have had with SME in years........ And we need to inject that, a bit of life, back into the patient before he keels over completely. We need to make a community, not just a collection of people. Give people the opportunity to be involved, feel like they are heard and appreciated, and feel like they belong. That or we can all pack up and leave someone to turn out the lights. Was there ever a committee formed for that ??? B. Rgds John _______________________________________________ Discussion about project organisation and overall direction To unsubscribe, e-mail [email protected] Searchable archive at http://lists.contribs.org/mailman/public/discussion/
