> One other point. It would be nice to have say an IRC channel to be able
> to hang out on and bat a few ideas about. Anyone have any suggestions ???

We tried to do something like this some time ago and it was met with much
resistance and those of us who used it were basically accused of creating
some kind of "boys club"  where we were keeping secrets from the rest of
the community -- none of which was true.    Certain individuals want all
discussions on mailing lists so their is a permanent,  public,  record of
what was said.

Greg
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