Hi, and thank you for taking the time to post and add to the discussion.
On 19/01/13 02:11, W. Chambers wrote: > Hi Guys > Having been a long time follower of SME and it has taken me a while to > compose this, although I have strayed from time to time I have always > come back to SME server just for the simplicity of the system and I > guess it is what I know best. There is tons of info in the wiki and forums. > Well done for stepping up to the plate, and I hope more will do so. > I know it is not for everyone and you do need to go to the command line > to add those nice extras from the contribs section that guys have spent > hours on it would be nice to reach a stage of a one click on the admin > interface to install a recommended and tested contrib but we are a long > way from something like that. > I think one click is certainly something that should be looked at if possible. it also means that a contrib should install without any other user intervention and hopefully have less risk of damaging the system. > We all want to get to the stage where we have an up to date base system > to work from and support the newer hardware and software out there, I do > realize that the devs are thin on the ground and that shad and others > have done an amazing job with the years of hosting and support, I as an > end user I would like to thank him and all the other devs for all the > work they have done over the years, its not often enough they get > recognition for the amount of work they do, in fact many times they have > been give grief for there affords. > Indeed. The consensus that I have seen and heard over the last few days is that trying to get the system to CentOS 6 as soon as reasonable possible should be the number one target. You can come and help me if you want ;-) > At the end of the day we have to look forward and decide what we want to do. > There has to be some form of structure put in place. > I am not a developer but more an end user, my contribution can only be a > little financial donation when I can afford it and a bit of help on the > forums if I can ( although Mary and Stefano are most helpful to the > people that post just about anything), they live on the forums and we > must remember that the forums and the wiki is the public face of SME > server and they are a huge asset to SME server. > Speaking of that ... The way I see it the forums is the first place > people come for help, I know that is where I went to begin with. > Anything you can do to help will be appreciated, be it in the forums or elsewhere. get a wiki account, get a bugs account, go through the docs and pick up anything that looks musty. Either edit yourself or post a Docs bug and someone will help you. Money :-) Oooh yes please ;-) > 1. The forums and wiki are the public face of the development there > should be a section there to let people know what is happening in the > background on a regular basis, I don’t mean just every five or six > months, something just to keep people up to speed on developments, > someplace users can stumble across to show there is a lot of work > happening in the background hey even a small blog ? !! , but only the > devs / admins can post in it. > I think a blog might be a good idea ?? Yes we have the wiki. But more of a rolling news page might be a bit 2013 ??? Any thoughts on this from anyone ? And can any one do anything about a trendier home page ??? > 2. The lists are really where the development takes place but most of > the public will seldom ever venture here as it is let’s say,,,, another > world. We can all subscribe to it, like I have for years, look at the > odd blip on the screen and look at interest at the on goings (this is my > first ever post to the lists please forgive me) > I wish more people would, even if just to keep abreast of things like this. Regrettably many don't feel comfortable or don't even find them. We need to try and change this. > 3. IRC is where people of similar knowledge and general followers can > meet and have a general chat, even perhaps help someone, I would say > 80% of the people who ever registered on the forum know nothing about > either mailing lists or IRC. > It's been a laugh tonight. I felt quite 'community minded' for the first time in a long time. It's a good place to have a gas, but not to make decisions. I would suggest if we actually write anything down and make sense of it, then any proposals for change should be stuck in the lists and generally agreed upon. No decisions should be made in IRC or any other chat forums. I have no problem with that. But equally if people want to talk on Facebook (not my preference at all - but may be a page for publicity might be good some time) or any other place then they can do as they choose. The rampant assault of instant comms and social networking, however unpalatable, cannot be completely ignored. > Structure > this is a must. > We need some group to guide us otherwise people run around doing there > own thing and get nothing done. > A given. People have been sticking their necks out. Greg is doing something on this. > Timeline: > Get to the base system i.e. centos 6 within a reasonable time, do not > put time strict time constraints on it but make a target. > A given too, as above. > I have looked with interest at the lists, forums IRC and want to > acknowledge the efforts of all to keep the system alive and as up to > date as possible and I will do my utmost to support the distro even > though my effort is only small in comparison to what others put into it. > Excellent - keep looking, listening, an most importantly, join in !!! B. Rgds John _______________________________________________ Discussion about project organisation and overall direction To unsubscribe, e-mail [email protected] Searchable archive at http://lists.contribs.org/mailman/public/discussion/
