Hi Ian,
On 25/02/13 17:05, Ian Wells wrote: > Hi John, > >> I would like to try and have two teams really - one to box off v8.1 and >> another to continue work on v9. > > I would not try to split into two actual teams, but there are essentially > two virtual teams with hugely overlapping membership already. > [email protected] handles the updates whilst > [email protected] handles the development. > Yes, I see that. > To make SME 8.1 happen, get the commitment of someone to roll the needed > ISOs. Currently this has been Shad, but the needed scripts are available to > all. > Once the commitment is there then the rest can follow. > Go on then - show me how :-) >> However, as I mentioned above, knowing who is doing what is a tad >> difficult and makes organising anything almost impossible. > > The development model is robust to an anonymous development community. The > problematic points are the lack of Troubleshooters and the lack of > verification - which are not specific to SME 8 / 9. > >> I appreciate that getting people to add their names on a mailing list is >> not necessarily the best way of finding out who is doing what. > > It is quite easy to generate names of active committers, less easy but not > impossible to generate a list of developers/Troubleshooters/Verification > people. What is impossible is to know future commitment. > This kind of what I'm driving at. A lot of the problems with getting things done is simply a management one. There are times when we need to try and task specific people to specific jobs to break the back of things. That is difficult when we don't really have much of an idea of who is available to do what. I think we need a better method of stating required jobs and finding volunteers to commit. I think there are a lot of people out there who would be prepared to help but need to be given specific tasks rather than just saying 'go find something to do on the bug track'. Not everyone is a pro developer (I am a perfect example of a complete amateur at all this) and I think we need to try and give as much specific guidance as possible. Maybe we need to expand the section on current tasks here and make it more specific : http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server_9.0_Development Do we have anything similar for v8 ? >> Somehow we MUST get a bit more organised. If not we will end up >> duplicating effort and wasting our precious time and resources, or even >> worse, nothing will get done at all. > > I would prefer the effort going towards finding and supporting new > Troubleshooters including verification. > I have not yet seen duplication/wasted effort, but where we have serious > problems are lack of troubleshooting of incoming errors, and virtually no > verification of fixes. Chris has done an amazing job in this area but more > community people should be there helping. > Agreed - I think we need to have the information in place for people to find and work on - I had someone on IRC today who was asking 'what can I do' and I would have liked to have given them more specific work. B. Rgds John _______________________________________________ Discussion about project organisation and overall direction To unsubscribe, e-mail [email protected] Searchable archive at http://lists.contribs.org/mailman/public/discussion/
