you're right, its me being defensive ;0) 

at the moment the vlans are working ok, even in my strange setup!

now I am learning the way pfsense handles rules, esp. the implied ones.

Cheers
Chun

> >Dan, I have used virtual and physical interfaces on other firewalls
> (Nokia
> >running CP NG), I treat the physical as vlan 1.
> 
> this is not nokia :)  not saying it can't work, but i'm surprised if it
> does.
> 
> 
> 

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