You've made a strong case, and this is probably not where PyPi should go -- but it would hardly be a disaster:
> The idea of expiring out names has been brought up recently to resolve an > issue of two packages, one popular and large; another someone's weekend > project. The issue here is not that it's a weekend project, but that it may be an abandoned project. I don't think anyone suggest that we should have a popularity or quality test to see who gets to trump whom with name allocation -- I sure didn't. Which is quite relevant to below: > 1. PyYAML is a package that would be de-registered in such a scheme. It > is a highly used, extremely popular, package that unserializes text into > arbitrary python objects. It is a trusted package... and one that hasn't > been active in ages. and you don't think ANYONE would be willing to take on the miniscule amount of work to maintain the name? Plus there would be any number of other schemes for determining whether a project name is abandoned. > 2. the package tooling already assumes that names will always point to > one, and only one package. ever. until the heat death of the universe or > the death of the language whichever is first. IIUC, the current scheme allows for a name to be "taken over" by a new package if the original author so desires -- i.e. if the current owner of the mypy name was happy to relinquish it, then "pip install mypy" would get users something totally different 6 months from now. So no -- we don't currently guarantee anything about future use of names. Other that that the original author can do whatever they want with it. 3. Who in the PSF really wants that bureaucratic nightmare of arbitrating > cases when this inevitably messes up, be this system manual or automatic? > I think bureaucratic nightmare is pretty hyperbolic, but yes, there would be some overhead, for sure. And given that no one has the time and motivation to even maintain PyPi at this point -- this will probably kill the idea altogether. To the specifics of the mypy-lang package that brought this up... It's like > naming your company "Yahoo", and getting upset that yahoo.com is getting > a bump in traffic because of your popularity. Again - this is not about minor weekend projects not be "important". It's about potential abandonware -- with domain registration, "Yahoo" can offer to buy the domain from the current holder, or, if the current owner has abandoned it, it will go into the public pool again when they stop paying to maintain the registration. -CHB -- Christopher Barker, Ph.D. Oceanographer Emergency Response Division NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice 7600 Sand Point Way NE (206) 526-6329 fax Seattle, WA 98115 (206) 526-6317 main reception chris.bar...@noaa.gov
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