On 2 mars 2014, at 02:40, Josh Smeaton <[email protected]> wrote:

> At the very least it might be a good middle ground to tag PRs with "Requires 
> Work" or "Not Ready", so they can be easily filtered out from "active" PRs. 
> On the other hand, there could be a strange mix of Trac and the PR queue 
> containing conflicting information.


In short, Django uses PRs for code review, and nothing else. The status of a PR 
is defined by the status of the Trac ticket that contains a link to that PR. 
The ticket lifecycle is explained in the contributing guide.

GitHub's issues / PR system is designed for small projects. It's improductive 
and impractical to look at the list of pull requests and work from there. So we 
don't do that. If you need to filter tickets, do it in Trac. 

In detail, we cannot make a better use of PRs because GitHub's UX is pathetic 
as soon as you have more than two dozen PRs. Having brought the number of 
issues on the Django Debug Toolbar down from 150 to 20, I have first hand 
experience of banging my head against GitHub Issues on a projet much smaller 
than Django, but already too large for GitHub. It's simply impossible to 
navigate issues efficiently when all you have is binary open / close (and 
contributors can't reopen when you close), tags (if you emulate state with 
tags, some tickets end up with multiple states and others with no state), 
pagination hardcoded at 30 per page, and that's it. Also, if I remember 
correctly, we cannot receive notifications on the django-updates mailing list 
when someone makes a pull request, which doesn't help.

I wish I could say "sure, we'll give you access, show us how it would work" but 
that would mean giving you commit access to Django. At that point, we're 
hitting the other big limitation of GitHub: if you aren't a committer, you 
cannot do anything for a projet. But Django relies a lot on its broader 
community. So, once again, if you'd like to clarify the status of issues, the 
place to do it is Trac. (Triagers get a few extra permissions, just ask if you 
want them.)

I hope this helps you understand our choices better. I wish we could do 
everything on GitHub, but our body of knowledge is in Trac and its features 
simply blow GitHub out of the water.

-- 
Aymeric.

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