The second use case that I'm trying to address is when a sender only
wants to receive feedback reports on message disposition and not alter
email processing in any way.  I don't want a DMARC p=none to alter
anything the SPF is doing (-all or ~all).  I also don't want DMARC to
alter processing of and ADSP record if present.

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Chris Lamont Mankowski
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Murray,
>
> The use case that I'm trying to address is when a sender is sending to
> DMARC enabled receiving MTAs and also to non-DMARC enabled MTAs.  My
> understanding is that SPF ~all and -all (as well as ADSP) are
> currently not stringently adhered to by receiving MTAs.  Those
> directives may only end up being a weight in the grand scheme of
> things.
>
> The use case is when the sender is in this co-existence mode and also
> wants to have a DMARC policy for MTAs that can handle it.
>
> This assumes that the final disposition of the message in DMARC
> processing is different that SPF (which is more heuristic based)
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Murray Kucherawy <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 7/6/12 6:19 AM, "Chris Lamont Mankowski" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Does ADSP proessing, weight-based huristics, and -all *always* get
>>>overridden.. even when a DMARC record is discovered with a p=none?
>>>
>>>Does it matter what the value of pct is?
>>>
>>>To eliminate confusion, I think the following paragraph should be
>>>edited to read:
>>>
>>>Section 7,  Policy Enforcement Considerations
>>>
>>>   [Old]
>>>   DMARC-compliant Mail Receivers MUST disregard any mail directive
>>>   discovered as part of an authentication mechanism (e.g., ADSP, SPF)
>>>   where a DMARC policy is also discovered. {R7}
>>>
>>>   [Revised]
>>>   DMARC-compliant Mail Receivers MUST disregard any mail directive
>>>   discovered as part of an authentication mechanism (e.g., ADSP, SPF)
>>>   where a DMARC policy is also discovered EXCEPT when "p=none" and
>>>"pct=" is
>>>   missing or has any value. If the "p=" is equal to quarantine, reject,
>>>monitor,
>>>   then only specified percentage of messages defined in "pct=" will have
>>>DMARC
>>>   policy applied. (note that a missing pct= value implies 100%) {R7}
>>>
>>>Thoughts?
>>
>> I'm not sure about this.  A "none" means the Domain Owner is making an
>> explicit statement that it wants no action to be taken.
>>
>> What's the particular use case you're trying to solve for here?
>>
>> -MSK
>>
>>>
>>
>>
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