On 03/30/2013 01:17, J. Gomez wrote:
Maybe mailing list software should evolve and take ownership of the
RFC5322.From header and put in there the list's own email address
while retaining the original poster's descriptive name?
We are told, though not quite in so many words, that if this is our hope
than we would make more progress pounding sand.
Yes, mailing lists and other forwarding scenarios will continue to
exist. And sure, I would love it if the relevant coders and operators
chose to change things such that they worked well with DMARC's active
policies. But just as people will persist in using old versions of web
browsers which meet their needs perfectly well - and are free to do so!
- some, perhaps most, maybe even all mailing list operators will
continue to do what they've been doing for years, decades, what have
you. And not one of them will be harassed by the Internet Police...
And that's okay. DMARC can help reduce abuse today in some very useful
and common scenarios that cause pain for many people. If in future there
are opportunities to apply/extend DMARC into other scenarios, so much
the better.
In the meantime, sadly, DMARC is not a panacea. Some organizations may
decide to throw the baby out with the bathwater upon learning this, and
ignore DMARC entirely. And that's their prerogative. But if I can use it
to prevent hundreds of thousands of phishing messages that abuse domains
I support from reaching end user inboxes, I'll consider it a win and
keep moving slowly forward.
I mean hey, it took five years (2005-2010) to go from a major ISP
postmaster laughing at the idea of obeying an SPF "-all" policy on a
domain I support, to one of their rivals doing exactly that and giving
me statistics about it. So I'm optimistic on the long view, and I look
forward to seeing where we are five years from now.
--S.
PS - I'm doing maintenance on this domain over the weekend. I sure hope
a few tempfails don't get me bounced off this MailMan list...
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