And a few others too, but then they contain the words "out of office" and even 
a special header and most of the time they don't carry much useful information 
unless you believe email is a reliable instant form of communication.

Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question.

On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:42 AM, "Rolf E. Sonneveld" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> On 03/30/2013 02:20 PM, J. Gomez wrote:
>> On Saturday, March 30, 2013 12:35 PM [GMT+1=CET],Rolf E. Sonneveld wrote:
>> 
>>> On 03/30/2013 09:58 AM, J. Gomez wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:17 AM [GMT+1=CET],J. Gomez wrote:
>>>>> I hope some solution to this problem with mailing lists is found.
>>>>> Maybe mailing list software should evolve and take ownership of
>>>>> the RFC5322.From header and put in there the list's own email
>>>>> address while retaining the original poster's descriptive name?
>>>> I see (*) that mailman already has an option for the mailing list
>>>> address to take ownership of the RFC5322.From header (see "Hide the
>>>> sender of a message, replacing it with the list address" in section
>>>> "Spam-specific posting filters"):
>>>> http://staff.imsa.edu/~ckolar/mailman/mailman-administration-v2.html
>>>> 
>>>> (*) Although I'm not really sure if that is a Mailman general
>>>> feature, or some local feature implemented just in Aurora
>>>> University's installation of Mailman.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, I see that in the Mailman Wishlist it is said "Allow admins
>>>> to control and set individual headers, adding, removing, or
>>>> overriding those in the original message (sometimes very useful,
>>>> but could be dangerous!)":
>>>> http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/todo.html
>>>> 
>>>> Therefore it looks like we are already half way there.
>>>> 
>>>> So, imagine a lists subscriber who sends email to a mailing list
>>>> with this RFC5322.From header:
>>>> 
>>>>   From: "Sam Spade" <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> Then the mailing list software would rewrite the RFC5322.From
>>>> header when forwarding the email to all its subscribers to look
>>>> like this:
>>>> 
>>>>   From: "Mailman-Sam Spade" <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>> And now, imagine this behaviour becomes the default for the
>>>> majority of mailing list software...
>>> and then have all out-of-office replies etc. being bounced back to the
>>> list...
>>> 
>>> /rolf
>> Out-Of-Office replies are DSN and therefore should have a blank sender.
> 
> Tell this to Microsoft and have them fix their installed base of MS 
> Exchange...
> 
> /rolf
> 
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