On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Dave Crocker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Although it does prompt the question of why you are working so hard to
> avoid responding to the substance of the question I asked.
>
> And no, I'm not expecting a useful response.

Dave, I apologize for frustrating you. Neither you nor I have any
particular standing relating to the list's administration, and thus,
little recourse when an attempt to steer a conversation in a certain
direction is rebuffed. What you call carefully formed, I look at and
go, interesting questions, but very cart before the horse, and I'm not
a student in attendance at a lecture you're presenting, so, no, you
don't get to call on me and demand that I answer you. I find the
tactic distasteful and declined to respond to it as you desired.

Back to the point, which is: I'd like to understand the operational
issue before I'm willing to jump to the existential crisis of what I
should or shouldn't want from a list archive. That doesn't mean I'm
not willing to answer your questions -- I'm very much willing to do
so. But you've jumped ahead in the discussion. I still don't
understand what changed and why it is considered bad.

I saw John say, "the mail going into the archive isn't the same as the
mail going out to the list." In what way? I look at the archive and I
see several ways. I see different headers. Obfuscation of email
addresses to prevent spambot harvesting. Web markup and navigational
links inserted, to account for the very different protocols used to
interact with a web page versus an email message. And, of course, the
fact that the archive is showing you a representation of the
submitter's address, even though the emailed copy may have had a
rewritten from address to deal with DMARC policy. A web archived copy
of a message posted to the list doesn't look like the email copy I
received, in a bunch of different ways.

Regards,
Al Iverson
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