On May 30, 2014, at 4:28 PM, Michael Adkins <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5/30/14, 3:34 PM, "Douglas Otis" <[email protected]> wrote: >> On May 30, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Michael Adkins <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> For more than 15 years we have been running servers supporting email >>>> handling for hundreds of millions of users. We are seeing DMARC >>>> recommendations being ignored and causing email to go missing or ending >>>> up in a spam folder likely due to message scoring muck. >>> >>> Who is Œwe¹? Who, precisely, are you claiming to speak for? What >>> specific changes have you made to your systems? >> >> Dear Michael, >> >> This was a response to what seemed like an elitist statement about who >> should contribute. >> >> If you must know, although this should not matter, I work closely with >> Dave Rand who, together with Paul Vixie, established the first free email >> reputation service. It was called MAPS for Mail Abuse Prevention >> System. It changed to Kelkea as a new legal entity then acquired by >> Trendmicro. >> >> At Trend, my low level code helped automate a collection process >> following failed efforts of three teams. I got stuck with this by saying >> at a meeting it should not be a problem to process that amount of data. >> My background is designing disk and tape storage systems which entailed >> fabricating chips, developing firmware, and developing servos for tape, >> disk, and optical. Later I also developed a network bandwidth control >> system for a metropolitan wireless network and T3 distribution points. >> The patent was sold after I left the startup and became a basis for 3com >> cable products. >> >> As was said, the comment was about changes in behavior being seen. Does >> that help? > > > No, it does not. It is not ‘elitist’ to ask for actual information from > people who actually know things, as opposed to people who are just > guessing. > > You keep insisting that you are observing things, and that you know the > cause. What you have just stated is that you have no access to any > current production systems that have DMARC implementations, and therefore > are just guessing about what is and isn’t happening, or what has or has > not been changed about them.
Dear Michael, Sorry, we seem to be speaking past each other. Are you suggesting as long as large providers don't adjusting their process there isn't a problem? We need to arrive at a solution for both large and small operations where problems clearly exist now. Are smaller operations any less important? Regards, Douglas Otis _______________________________________________ dmarc-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms (http://www.dmarc.org/note_well.html)
