On 5/30/14, 3:34 PM, "Douglas Otis" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>On May 30, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Michael Adkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> For more than 15 years we have been running servers supporting email
>>> handling for hundreds of millions of users.  We are seeing DMARC
>>> recommendations being ignored and causing email to go missing or ending
>>> up in a spam folder likely due to message scoring muck.
>> 
>> Who is Œwe¹?  Who, precisely, are you claiming to speak for?  What
>> specific changes have you made to your systems?
>
>Dear Michael,
>
>This was a response to what seemed like an elitist statement about who
>should contribute.
>
>If you must know, although this should not matter, I work closely with
>Dave Rand who, together with Paul Vixie, established the first free email
>reputation service.  It was  called MAPS for Mail Abuse Prevention
>System. It changed to Kelkea as a new legal entity then acquired by
>Trendmicro.
>
>At Trend, my low level code helped automate a collection process
>following failed efforts of three teams.  I got stuck with this by saying
>at a meeting it should not be a problem to process that amount of data.
>My background is designing disk and tape storage systems which entailed
>fabricating chips, developing firmware, and developing servos for tape,
>disk, and optical.  Later I also developed a network bandwidth control
>system for a metropolitan wireless network and T3 distribution points.
>The patent was sold after I left the startup and became a basis for 3com
>cable products. 
>
>As was said, the comment was about changes in behavior being seen. Does
>that help?


No, it does not.  It is not ‘elitist’ to ask for actual information from
people who actually know things, as opposed to people who are just
guessing.

You keep insisting that you are observing things, and that you know the
cause.  What you have just stated is that you have no access to any
current production systems that have DMARC implementations, and therefore
are just guessing about what is and isn’t happening, or what has or has
not been changed about them.


>
>Regards,
>Douglas Otis
>
>
>


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