On 12-12-16 07:47, Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss wrote:

John Levine wrote:


>>John Levine wrote:
>>
>>> This would be a good time to reread RFC 7489, particularly section
>>> 6.6.3, and very particularly numbered item 3 in that section.
>>
>>This is simply the DNS record discovery mechanism. It doesn't explain the apparent overriding of the behaviour of >>the sub-domain policy specified in the record discovered via that mechanism.
>
> Hmmn.  I wonder if anyone ever tested sp=none. More typically you
> don't expect your subdomains to be sending mail so it's sp=reject.

Actually, this is a good point: setting aside any apparent inconsistency between the language of the specification and the response of gmail, it's not at all clear why "p=reject sp=none" would ever be a good idea. There may be specific cases where it may make sense to carve out a single sub-domain with a weaker policy for specific, closely-monitored purposes, but this would seem better addressed by creating a policy specific to that subdomain, rather than publishing a blanket policy which effectively says "You can't impersonate our domain, but create any subdomain you like and impersonate your heart out!".

Can anyone see any good reason to use a policy like this?

Petr, can you describe what you were trying to achieve?

(I'm not advocating a specification change, just surveying likely use cases.)

actually I have two customers using mail for both their office automation and for business processes. Both of them use their domain for office automation mail and a subdomain thereof for business process mail. A DMARC policy for their office environment may not have impact on their business process mail traffic.

/rolf

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