> We (people with p=reject) went to all well known ESPs > and asked them to send our emails with SPF and DKIM > alignment with our domain.
I did the same thing with microsoft.com (not every domain or brand at Microsoft, just microsoft.com). It took me six months. I'm going to be giving a talk about this at the Virus Bulletin conference in Seattle this September. -- Terry ________________________________________ From: dmarc <[email protected]> on behalf of Franck Martin <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2014 4:01 AM To: Stephen J. Turnbull Cc: Vlatko Salaj; Popowycz, Alex; DMARC Discussion; Talamo, Victor Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] confusing 3rd party support so it remains out On Jun 7, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote: > Popowycz, Alex writes: >> Vlatko > > Please don't feed the trolls (including me, I'm regretting my role > in this thread). There's work to be done here, and Vlatko seems > uninterested in helping with it (eg, when asked for specific > references, he says "I'm not a search engine"). > > What I gather from Vlatko's posts is that there is a use case where an > entity (eg, a small business; called "ENTITY" below) wants its own > domain (called "OWNDOM" below) referenced in correspondence, but > prefers not to maintain a single presence (even as a VPS) on the > Internet. Instead, ENTITY uses an ESP (below, "ESP" denotes > aparticular ESP) to send and receive mail, and ESP provides the usual > set of authentication services for its host. The need is to provide > credentials and an authentication protocol for mailboxes in OWNDOM > that will satisfy identity alignment, and all actors will voluntarily > participate. Stephen, We (people with p=reject) went to all well known ESPs and asked them to send our emails with SPF and DKIM alignment with our domain. They all have been able to do it, tho some (especially account reps) did not know what DMARC meant :P So I think requesting an ESP to do SPF and DKIM using your domain is not impossible, I think the issue, is a problem of scale at the moment. Few have “press a button” solution, and it is still a manual configuration, but I suspect, they will scale from manual to automatic setup to support any domain DMARC policies as more customers request the features. _______________________________________________ dmarc mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc
