On Friday, June 6, 2014 9:46 PM, Brandon Long <[email protected]> wrote:


> To use DMARC, you have to be able to authenticate your
> mail using either SPF or DKIM.

i am.


> Doing that requires running a server that does it or
> using a service which does it.

i am - ymail. it authenticates it's own DKIM signatures
and SPF servers on my email perfectly. for free, imagine that.


> There is nothing that says that YMail has to support your use case.

ymail supports my use case. DMARC doesn't: it needs 3rd party support.

i need nothing from ymail, they have been doing wonderful job for me
13y now.

i need DMARC alignment rigidity gone. and some wise ppl to accept it.
well, we may lack that, i guess.


> There are those who think we must move to an authenticated sender world.
> In that world, either we have a third party auth system (which we don't),
> or third parties need to have the ability to provide auth (upload a dkim key,
> include: for SPF).

or simply we add 3rd party support to DMARC. and walla, we r there.


ps. all messages to this mailing list r failing DMARC.
just so u ppl know. my forwarder keeps annoying me about that.
please fix it. ohhh, yes, u can't. sorry for mentioning. at least
u can say receivers u don't care about DMARC, right? imagine if they
didn't include DMARC-ignore in records, either.

btw, i do find it ironic how messages to a mailing list about
DMARC r failing the same protocol they mean to discuss.
just the way world works, i guess. ppl make broken stuff, then
defend them as if sky will fall if they gets fixed.

pps. i'll just turn off my DMARC testing scripts... i have enough data.
anybody wants to see it? actually, there's nothing to tell what i
didn't say already anyways.

ppps. i'm quite sure many ppl here have enough of my posts for a lifetime.
so, i'll just stop replying now, as there's very little i can additionally
say, beyond mocking various posters for their obvious incapability to
follow my posts or whatever, which isn't my intention, interest or pleasure.


i will keep in touch if u eventually fix DMARC, sure.
but i predict u won't.

so, farewell.


-- 
Vlatko Salaj aka goodone
http://goodone.tk

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