On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Vlatko Salaj <[email protected]>
wrote:

> > That, sir, is false, both as to fact and as to causality.
> > The choice was among different varieties of pain, but
> > no amount of preparation would have made the pain avoidable.
>
> that's a completely wrong assumption. they all knew DMARC doesn't
> work for any case where 3rd party is involved. document even says so.
>

I think you're talking about different "they"s here.  I believe Stephen is
talking about mailing list operators and software developers, while you're
talking about large ISPs.


> and thus, early ignorance brought us here where we have DMARC
> on non-IETF path, where we r bitching about mailing lists and
> where we have 3 different 3rd party proposals.
>

Sorry, but that's not at all correct.  The reason DMARC is not (presently)
in the IETF stream has nothing to do with any of the above points.

-MSK
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