On 7/2/2014 11:03 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>  > So perhaps the most useful thing we can do is try to get the wg to
>  > formulate 'needs'
> 
> I don't see that we have "needs" here.  We know how to do this stuff


Stephen,

First, note that the industry has operated for quite a long time with
only a highly deficient mechanism.  My understanding is that it has
broadly known that the mechanism was only moderately accurate.

Second, note that there has already been significant discussion within
the IETF about this topic and no readily-apparent mechanism has
developed enough traction to approach consensus.  That is, we don't yet
have an identifiable constituency that says "here's the perfect solution
and we want to promote it."  Rather, we have a few different folk
exploring -- From my reading of their postings, I don't think even the
advocates yet qualify as strong proponents -- approaches.

This does yet look like "we know how to do this stuff."  In fact, from
the long history and the recent discussions, my personal view is that
this looks like a difficult topic that needs rather careful thought
about design, deployment and use issues, and that it mostly will come
down to tradeoffs.


> So it's not a "need", it's a "bone of contention".  How about
> "formulate use cases we would like such a definition to serve"?

In looking for a word to describe what the wg can reasonably do about
the external work, I settled on 'need' because I think it's /is/ pretty
straightforward for us to describe what we want to /do/ with a reliable
organizational domain mechanism, independent of how the mechanism might
work.

d/


-- 
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net

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