On 5/9/2015 3:01 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On May 9, 2015 1:13:15 PM EDT, Hector Santos <[email protected]> wrote:
Your bar is too unrealistically high for typical IETF project work that
is still in the experimental stages.   You should be thankful, we
didn't apply this bar to the SPF experiment.

It wasn't brought to be the IETF until it had substantial deployment.

Actually, the idea behind MARID was to come up with a single solution and if 
not for one company insisting on licensing terms that would have precluded free 
software implementations, I think we would have succeeded.

So I disagree. I think what I'm describing isn't that different than the 
non-political aspects of how SPF was handled.


Scott,

MARID got started when Microsoft introduced CEP, the XML version of SPF. As an early explorer before MARID, I supported CEP as well as most of the LMAP ideas such as DMP which predated SPF. LMAP was a framework for an IP Domain Association protocol; LMAP = IP::DOMAIN and we had the same resistance and arguments about complexity, DNS management issues, false positive, DoS issues, overhead and waste issues, name it, the same arguments.

Yet, you pleaded to consider the small guy and not allow "complexity" to not hamper progress.

   http://www.imc.org/ietf-mxcomp/mail-archive/msg02197.html



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HLS


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