On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 11:17:08 AM Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Scott Kitterman writes:
>  > Actually, the idea behind MARID was to come up with a single
>  > solution
> 
> Is there something we can learn from MARID?  I don't see it in the
> context of the current discussion, as MARID had little to say about
> third parties (it treated them as first parties, and handled third
> party issues by suggesting "certification registries"), and explicitly
> disclaimed authentication of authorship claims.

I think the situation is different enough in many respects that there's not 
much to learn from it today.  I mostly responded because I think that if 
people do discuss history, they ought to be accurate about it.

If there's a lesson to be learned it's that the complete lack of existence of 
those certification registries ought to perhaps give pause to those arguing for 
similar things now.  For SPF there was a service for some time called trusted-
forwarder.org, but it never really got much traction.

The reasons MARID was terminated with no output (none of the SPF and Sender-ID 
RFCs were working group products, they were done independently after the 
working group was closed and both were different in important respects than 
what MARID was working towards) were, IMO, entirely non-technical.  I'm 
willing to discuss them if someone wants to chat about history, but not here, 
I think it's off topic.

Scott K

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