On 2020-06-13 22:13, John Levine wrote:
In article <2bf78d7529ba4c5e935315d767783...@bayviewphysicians.com> you write:
The "mailing list problem" was introduced into this discussion as an objection to DMARCs progress, by implication suggesting that DMARC must be delayed until a solution is found which
creates no inconvenience to mailing list operators.

At this point I truly have no idea what your point is. The fact that
DMARC screws up mailing lists is enough of a problem that a lot of
people have put considerable time and money into inventing and
implementing ARC.

even if ietf tribble dkim sign mails it still gives

X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on localhost.junc.eu
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.3, required=5.0, Autolearn=unavailable
        autolearn_force=no, LastExt=4.31.198.44
X-Spam-Rules_score: DKIM_INVALID=0.1,DKIM_SIGNED=-0.1,
        HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25,LOCAL_WHITELIST_URI=-0.5,
        MAILING_LIST_MULTI=-10.1,SPF_HELO_NONE=1.1,SPF_PASS=-0.1

hmm

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