On Wed 24/Jun/2020 19:37:46 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote:
> On 6/24/2020 9:31 AM, Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>> On Tue 23/Jun/2020 20:49:11 +0200 Dave Crocker wrote:
>>> So if Sender: wouldn't be as useful as From:, why not?
>>
>> The assertion that "DMARC protects the domain name in the address part
>> of the From:" would have to be dropped.
> Of course. But why is that a 'problem' rather than just a fact?
> 
> An obvious challenge in this type of discussion is to distinguish
> surface issues from underlying issues. So for every observation like
> this, about documentation language, we need to ask a version of "so
> what?"  That is, how does it affect actual DMARC efficacy?


That position changes DMARC substantially:

Frequently, an inbound message has one or more valid DKIM signatures,
and/or passes SPF, yet it fails DMARC; that is, the authenticated
domain(s) are not aligned with From:.  Now it's obvious that any of
those authenticated domain(s) could as well have set a Sender:
pointing to itself.  Hence, the net effect is equivalent to dropping
the alignment requirement.


>> Sender: has a display name and an address, just like From:.  Don't we
>> risk to double phishing opportunities?
>>
>> If Sender: and From: domains disagree, are both going to get reports?
> 
> Why would there be a DMARC report on From:?


Reports are supposed to be consumed by the originator.


Best
Ale
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