> On Apr 7, 2024, at 9:27 AM, John R Levine <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 7 Apr 2024, Neil Anuskiewicz wrote:
>> I think clear statement and supporting text explaining clearly that SPF is 
>> no longer the policy layer would be a good idea. While it might be slightly 
>> out of scope, I have encountered people who think best practice is to 
>> enforce with -ALL.
> 
> We had a long discussion about that which you can read in the list archive at 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/dmarc/
> 
> Nobody is crazy about SPF but removing it completely is too much of a change. 
> As Ale pointed out, if you don't want people to use SPF for your DMARC 
> validation, make all your SPF entries ? or ~ rather than +.
> 
> This WG should have finished a year ago.  Unless you think something is so 
> broken that it's worth more months of delay, forget it.

To be clear I was suggesting considering deprecating the hardfail modifier only 
as it’s archaic. I was not saying deprecate SPF.  That said, i don’t know what 
the unexpected consequences of this change would be. I think SPF still has its 
place. Maybe they’ll make some adjustments over in the SPF working group. 
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